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    What’s funny is that antimaskers still blat on about how they won’t wear a face diaper for anything or anyone, two years after such requirements ended. These people just need negative attention like tantruming toddlers.

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      And then some of the same people will wear actual diapers in public while holding signs proclaiming that “real men wear diapers”. Can’t make that shit up.

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      Whereas I hate getting my hair cut and I will just shave it all off when it gets too long.

      Actually, I can’t think of anything during COVID I actually found to be a huge imposition other than wearing a mask at work got hot after a while.

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        I felt bad for enjoying it. Worked from home, hardly expected to go out, much less traffic. Most service related jobs I prefer to do myself (like haircuts like you mentioned) or am perfectly fine with minimal contact. In general I feel bad for service workers so even if they aren’t friendly with me (not that I ever really experienced that much) I wouldn’t mind, and also don’t mind self checkout and automation.

        I may sound like I’m accusing others, and maybe that’s part of it, but the way service workers are expected to act certain ways with us feels like trying to perpetuate class based servitude. As long as they’re relatively professional and not outright insulting, I think it’s fine.

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          I always try my hardest to look a service worker in the eye at least once during our transaction. Just an unconscious way to let them know I see them as an equal, not as a servant. I realize that’s not making a major change in the world, but I figure they don’t get that much.

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            That definitely helps from anecdotal information I was told, and I do the same. One of my younger sisters worked at a sorta prominent restaurant in Atlanta, and she complained that some of the high end clientele refused to look her in the eye. Sometimes she found it so insulting she’d act like she didn’t realize they were talking to her until they made eye contact.

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      As Weird Al sang in Tacky, “if I get bit by a zombie, I’m probably not telling you.”

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    Was there actually news indicating that preppers, as a group, were more likely to be against masking than for it?

    I wouldn’t be too surprised, but I haven’t actually seen any evidence to this effect.

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    On a deeper level I think it’s mostly a framework of acceptability some people have built around being antisocial and afraid of everything.

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    There’s a Simpson’s episode about preppers where they assume the big bad thing happens and fuck off to their bunkers, stuff happens, and they eventually come back to town. When they come back everyone is happy and doing fine and Marge says something like “things were okay after the first few hours. We all worked together and made it work. It was like all the mean, angry, and resentful parts of the town had just disappeared!”

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      preppers don’t want to be dependent on society because they don’t like society, but they’re not bright enough to realize they will always be dependent on society

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    As a guy who built shit for preppers (because some of them are stupid as fuck and have gobs of money from some shady bs) this is spot on.

    Preppers are fucking losers. The cunts who want WW3 deserve no love.

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      But have you considered that going to therapy and dealing with their intense insecurity is scary?

      Bros will have nuclear armegeddon before seeing a social worker and it shows.

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        Therapy would pierce the veil of lies and ignorance that they’ve made their Identity.

        People will burn down their house before admitting they were wrong their whole lives.

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          For what these doomsday prepers spend to compensate for their small manhood, they could easily pay for multiple sessions of therapy, even in the US.

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          Like the other person said, the people that do and say all this crazy shit spend thousands on rifles, rods, and trucks when a Crosstrek would probably be perfect. And that’s fine I guess it’s just they have the money(or the willingness to spend it anyway) and could probably squeeze a bi-weekly session in there.

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            Love how their idea of surviving the collapse of society is driving a huge ass truck, 'cause gasoline apparently falls from the sky

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              To their defense, if there’s a sudden collapse, there will likely a surplus of oil laying around that will be available for a while.

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      I felt silly for buying a 63 gallon, foldable/portable water tank for my small farm because the vast majority of the ones I looked at were marketed towards preppers.

      I just want my animals to have water in case the power goes out for a few days.

      But the way things like that are marketed makes it sound like your the smartest, bestest, most prepared person to ever walk this earth. I don’t need you to stroke my ego, just sell a foldable water tank with no leaks please.

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    Saw an episode of doomsday preppers years ago. These dudes had a whole property out in Oregon or Washington state designed to endure a potential onslaught of zombies.

    They had to quickly evacute their property and leave all their fancy stuff, because of a very real forest fire that came to visit, for which they were entirely unprepared.

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      I’ve been finding the crazy building in arid environments odd, because even aside from forest fires, if your water supply dries up, you’re going to have to uproot and move to a state or location with a reliable water source. And you’ll be part of a big mass of climate migrants at that point.

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      “Zombies”. If you let them talk, it’ll be pretty obvious that they’re looking for a legal loophole to kill somebody. “Zombies” just means city people, which just means black people. They’ll kill a white guy if that’s what their lifelong dream comes to, but they’d feel bad about it later.

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          Even then I wouldn’t do it because they’ll recommend the most over the top version of every product. When really all you want is a cheap camping stove which you’re probably going to use for 2 weeks out of the year.

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    Imagine living such a privileged life that the closest you’ve ever come to feeling oppressed was when you had to wear a mask to pick up dino nuggets at Walmart. Preppers have always been clowns, but COVID definitely ruined what little facade there ever actually was about the “movement” being anything other than a masturbatory LARP.

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    I’m in the “be prepared” group where we usually have a couple weeks of food and water around. We also have two forms of heat for when the power goes out.

    Will we survive WW3 on this? No, but it has been very helpful after big winter storms that took out the city power.

    Having some supplies to use in the short term is good for everyone. Being ready to go out to help neighbors and get the community back on its feet is how we get through to the next good times.

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      You should always have enough supplies for a short term emergency. That’s not doomsday prepping, it’s just common sense.

      I’m not a prepper IMO, but I have rooftop solar with battery backup, a few smaller portable batteries and UPSes on my critical stuff, and some oil filled radiators since my heat pump isn’t connected to the solar setup.

      At any given time we generally have a month or more worth of food in the house in frozen and dry/canned goods. Also, several gallons of bottled water.

      I also keep some stuff under the back bed of my car’s hatch, first aid kit and emergency blanket, and battery jumper kit as well as a battery powered tire inflator.

      I live in a semi-rural area, and in an emergency, getting out and/or getting food and necessities may not be possible. And if there’s a wildfire I may need to evacuate fast, so important to have what’s needed. This sort of thing is like… If you have the means, why wouldn’t you?

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      I wouldn’t call that being a prepper. That’s just sensible preparation for something like a natural disaster. Preppers think they’ll survive whatever their conception of “the big one” is.

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        I’m neither American nor a native English speaker so take it with a grain of salt.

        That’s where I’d put the line between a regular prepper and a doomsday prepper.

        Not to forget the very elusive Sergent Prepper.

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          I guess in my mind, ‘prepper’ is just short for ‘doomsday prepper’ and it’s not the same thing as doing, like I said above, sensible preparation for natural disasters.

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            Anyone that has been through even a bad blizzard knows it’s important to have some basic supplies. Depending on where in the US you live, it would actually be considered unusual and irresponsible to not have some basic preparation for weather and related stuff. Not having a cold-weather car kit and home preparations for losing power in a blizzard in the upper Midwest, for instance, would be considered stupid.

            No one thinks tornado shelters are that weird if you live in tornado alley. I’m sure hurricane prone areas probably have their own set of ready prep stuff that would seem weird in other parts of the country.

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                Yeah that’s what I’m saying. The stuff I mentioned is just reasonable preparation for, like… life. Sometimes stuff gets disrupted for unexpected reasons. Like toilet paper during a pandemic lol.

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        Preppers think the pencil nose accountants will all die screaming in regret while all the high school jv cheerleaders come begging them for help, in full uniform, and everyone finally recognizes how they were right all along.

        I have tons of food, a generator and other backup power and a gun, and if shit really hits the fan I know I’m not living 5 minutes longer than everyone less prepared, the resources actually make me a target.

        But then again, I have Pge, so it’s not doomsday prepping, it’s just ‘Wednesday, or whenever they next screw up resulting in 100s of deaths, weeks without power, and massive rate hikes resulting in huge bonuses to their upper management’.

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          Honestly, if the great civilization-ending disaster they think they’re prepping for happens, I hope I die in the first wave. I don’t have any Mad Max fantasies.

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              Definitely not. And anyone who thinks that it is the reality isn’t going to be Immortan Joe, they’re going to be one of the people at the bottom of the cliffs begging for water.

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                Or a human-shaped piece of sex furniture rented out to the water marauders in exchange for food and supplies. I’ll take not making it through the initial disaster, please and thank you!

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    If you just went hunting, fishing, and living in the woods COVID wouldn’t be a problem for you though.

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    What a lot of right wing preppers and a lot of ‘militia’ guys (the tacticool heavy infantry kind) seem to completely lack is the willingness to be inconvenienced at all.

    They buy or craft whatever stuff seems cool to them (some of which sure can actually be quite useful), train some skills they find fun to do (usually shooting/hunting) but most seem to ignore anything they don’t like, find difficult or uninteresting to do (such as keeping reasonably fit). It also usually includes being willing to take orders or cooperate.

    The lack of some skills/equipment/preparation could be overcome but not with the mentality that lead to it on the first place.

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      The being cooperative thing is the key.

      Id be willing to bet my left testicle those that survive an apocalypse are those who work together to grow food, build shelter, etc. and not the goobers who lock themselves in a crate with some beans.

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        Classic scene at the end of the movie "Leave the World Behind.

        Spoiler

        The survivors finally find respite, a fully stocked, super-luxury survival shelter, left wide open, because the people that built it died in the initial collapse.

        There’s no point having some survival shelter unless you’re already in it when you need to be.

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          There’s no point having some survival shelter unless you’re already in it when you need to be.

          I’ve often wondered about the millionaires who invest in these things. Then spend most of their time on a yacht in the Caribbean, thousands of miles away from the bunker. What exactly are they expecting to happen, do they think they’re going to get a week’s notice?

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      A lot of these militia guys also don’t learn the survival tasks they consider feminine. How many know any sort of gathering skills, cooking anything not meat based, laundry, mending clothes? Those are probably more day to day useful during the apocalypse than rifle shooting or how to wear camo paint.

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        Yeah, I think the idea there is if you point a gun at someone and tell them to cook and wash the clothes, it’s likely to get done. It’s that male power fantasy again. They desire civilizational collapse because then they think their love affair with guns will give them the authority and respect that can’t find in the real world.

        Meanwhile, it’s just likely to make them a target. And since most of the people I’ve come across like this are typically overweight morons, they’re just more likely to be killed in the extremely unlikely scenario they’re preparing/hoping for. But they see themselves as the main character.

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          The best tactic to deal with them would be to simply hang around on the periphery until they do something dumb and die of some preventable infection, then move in.

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      The one doomsday prepper I knew had to weigh at least 400 pounds. I often wondered if he knew how to make insulin for when the apocalypse happens.

      He was actually a nice enough guy, but not the brightest bulb in the box.

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        That’s because they’re planning against the fall of civilization. Realistically that wouldn’t happen. The bank stayed open during covid, the supermarket stayed open during covid. All that really happened was that life became very difficult for everyone and some people died.

        If your enemy is a virus then your front door is more than enough protection. You don’t need a big underground bunker you just need some pasta. But that’s boring so they don’t care.