• Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net
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    1 day ago

    I’m glad to see this hitting the fucking fan. As much as I hate to say it, PP is right: canadians need to see who is compromised. I’m a staunch left voter, but I wrote my conservative fuckstick MP when the report was first leaked.

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      10 hours ago

      I would agree, except that it may be legally prohibited. At present, I believe JT would be violating national security laws by revealing the names.

      Meanwhile, PP would much rather falsely scream “LIAR!” than admit that BS like that is exactly why he refuses to get a security clearance.

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      14 hours ago

      PP needs to see who is compromised.

      When it comes to national security there’s no excuse for our second major party and likely next PM to not have clearance.

      At least Trudeau can hide behind national security on this, and I would like to see more. But PP isn’t behaving responsibly or in good faith.

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        14 hours ago

        Certainly not doing the job of the opposition leader. He should be all up in that business, but he’s playing coy.

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      20 hours ago

      If pp cares so much, he can get the security clearance and look at the list himself.

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        20 hours ago

        Oh I agree: he’s being a typical spineless conservative. The point remains, however, that if there is hard evidence of our MPs literally working with foreign interests, they should be held accountable and the public should know who they are voting for.

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      23 hours ago

      I must have missed the part where there was definitive evidence that anyone was compromised. I thought this was still an investigation.

      If this has progressed to the stage that the evidence is strong enough than sure the names should be released, but I didn’t think the investigation was at that point.

      The alternative is the list of names is released and then it later comes out that a few names were actually innocent but it’s too late to take it back because that incorrect news being public will have ruined their chances or reelection.

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        20 hours ago

        I’m not suggesting a witch-hunt without evidence; just accountability from the government that is supposed to serve us. In power or otherwise.

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          17 hours ago

          That’s what the investigation is. And that’s happening. All parties with the correct access can access that information. What accountability isn’t happening?

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      1 day ago

      That would be irresponsible - this is intelligence, not evidence that would hold up in court.

      Trudeau himself says that some of the intel could be wrong.

      Of course, if they have irrefutable evidence regarding any individuals, I agree with you.

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        20 hours ago

        The issue is that foreign interference isn’t properly encompassed by the legal system in Canada. The party in charge doesn’t seem to be bothered by this fact, and has done nothing to actively remedy it. They could be setting definitions, and standards for what counts as interference, determining where the bar for intelligence credibility should be set, etc. Instead, they’ve left the door open to interference, and made it clear that when it happens, nothing will be done about it.

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          15 hours ago

          Do you think an acting government should be the one who sets the bar on what foreign interference is? That sounds like a huge conflict of interest. What’s wrong with leaving it to the courts to decide?

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    20 hours ago

    “I have the names of a number of parliamentarians, former parliamentarians and/or candidates in the Conservative Party of Canada who are engaged, or at high risk of, or for whom there is clear intelligence around foreign interference,” [Trudeau] said.

    The fact that Trudeau is comfortable using foreign interference as a cudgel against a political opponent is outrageous. FFS, the Liberals knew about Han Dong, and didn’t do anything about it until it became public and their hand was forced. Had that not happened, there is no reason to expect that Han Dong wouldn’t still be happily sitting as a Liberal.

    If the Prime Minister cared about foreign interference, he would be putting measures in place immediately to ensure that if anybody sitting in the house of commons is compromised by foreign interests, they should be expelled. He’s the Prime Minister. He could make this a priority. But no, it’s still somehow a bickering match about security clearances. Crazy.

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      13 hours ago

      When questioned by Conservative Party lawyer Nando De Luca, Trudeau also said the names of Liberal parliamentarians and individuals from other parties are on the list of parliamentarians at risk of being compromised by foreign interference.

      Wow, what a cudgel.

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      14 hours ago

      JT just needs to announce who’s on the list and I’m willing to bet we’ll see why exactly PP doesn’t want a background check done on him.