I would wear a full face one on my e-bike, but I’m worried about looking like a dork.
I guess an alive dork is better than a dead dork, huh?
Maybe you can get a mountain bike helmet instead of a motorbike one, I guess the protection is also more adapted to the speed of a bicycle.
You won’t look like a dork when road rash makes your face look like Voldemort made out with a cheese grater.
A while back I had a friend take a dive on an electric scooter. Black eye, broken collar bone, broken lower leg. If you’re on two wheel, definitely wear a helmet.
100%
Pls be safe
One time I turned too sharp on my then-new ebike and pitched forward head-first into the asphalt.
I was wearing my helmet, so I didn’t end up with any damage other than a bit of a scare, but I’m sure if I wasn’t I’d’ve ended up with a chipped tooth or a concussion. Always wear your helmet.
This breaks the rider’s collarbone. (Still better than not having a face though)
Always wear an approved brain bucket and gear or become a road pizza.
We have laws which force people to wear helmets, and wear seat belts. These are common sense laws to prevent people from killing themselves. Nobody bats an eye.
This is the example I’d use during covid when people were complaining about masks being against their rights, even when it would protect them from being sick.
My guy, you’re someone who wouldn’t wear a helmet if the laws had only just changed to enforce them. You’re a hazard to yourself.
In Florida Darwin wrote the NTSB standards.
Buh muh rightzz!!
There are people who try to bypass those also, or cheat em. Usually for some personal comfort. One of my sisters was like this. She wasn’t that tall, and complained the seat belt shoulder part was uncomfortable, so she’d either not wear it or put that part behind her.
Then someone swung into her lane causing her to rear end em (she was in a moving normal speed lane and they were backed up in an exit lane). Without the seat belt there, what instead slowed her movement forward was the steering wheel shattering her jaw. She’s fine now, but a painful lesson that included reconstructive surgery.
And does she wear a seat belt now?
Yep, I just meant there are too many people who don’t use something until they get hurt, or something similar. I have a seatbelts on or I stop driving rule, and I do sometimes have to tell people. Including different siblings from the one who got hurt.
I also have a seatbelts on or I stop driving rule. A lot of people don’t want rides from me after I enforce that rule. Like, I’m responsible for their lives as the driver. If they die because they aren’t wearing their seatbelts while I was driving, it’s my fault for not making them buckle up. I even have seatbelts for my dogs because I want them to be as safe as I am. Passengers lives’ are in your hands when you drive. It’s really scary if you actually think about it in depth.
My ex wife was in one of those 1 in 1 million accidents where wearing a seatbelt would have done more damage than not wearing it. Now she never wears her seatbelt because “a doctor” once said in her particular one off experience he was glad she wasn’t wearing one. SMH. I tried to explain how wearing a seatbelt is safer in almost every other account, but she doesn’t listen. It’s just a matter of time till my son doesn’t have a mother anymore.
Cat owner?
Derby skater here:
Hell yes wear your helmet.
I got thrown off a horse recently and my head hit the ground so hard the riding helmet cracked. Scary shit. Idk if I’d even be alive rn if I wasn’t wearing it.
Fuck anyone who advocates against wearing a full-faced helmet. Fuck modular too, the kind moto cops wear that pop open… Cuz guess when they’ll unfortunately pop open?
There’s a fortnine video advocating against wearing armor, that kevlar alone would take care of abrasion injuries etc. You know what I like when I crash? Not getting pebbles embedded into my elbow or knee flesh.
Have fun, get there, and get old.
I like my modular helmet that pops up. It’s pretty secure and I haven’t seen one pop open during an event. They also say they’re rated to be protective with the face up or closed.
I unsubbed from fortnine after that, he sucks now
But, the modular helmets are fine if ECE22.06 rated. They have steel latches
Former Motorcyclist here.
The guy I used to ride with died! Collided with a car. He flew off his bike and face first into a pole.
I was never friendly with him. He called me a pussy for wearing a full-faced helmet when we rode, while he was wearing a half-helmet that was like a WW2 replica on his harley. I was the youngest on the ride and he was lecturing me trying to teach me “his ways”.
Well, he’s a meat crayon now.
The people who are telling you to wear protection are still alive.
while he was wearing a half-helmet that was like a WW2 replica on his harley
Let me guess, a Nazi helmet?
I don’t think so. Unfortunately, he did nazi that car that collided with him.
Jesus Christ…thank you… I’m having a challenging evening and that took me right out the funk.
Lmfao beautiful
Ouch.
He’s now advocate for airbag so there’s that.
My friend had a minor head injury and his doctor advised him to wear a full face helmet whilst riding his bicycle. The cops pulled him over and he had to show them the note the doctor had written about it. I guess the concern is that if your face is obscured they can’t track you down if you commit a crime? Still seems pretty dumb to me.
Cops are just nosy. No justification. They don’t like people who look weird. That’s how they’re trained to think.
I don’t know… think seems like the wrong word. Maybe trained to react?
that has to be UK, it just has to be. the CCTV surveillance state is crazy there. (saying this as a Canadian whose face is recorded probably 200 times a day in my city)
Bingo, it is indeed the UK
What country? That’s pretty dystopian.
Probably the land of the free********
Almost certainly not.
ATGATT
When I started riding I had a BMW modular helmet, Made by Schuberth, those things do not give up. I know some of the Harley-Davidson helmets are Made in China though Scorpion. No thanks.
Nice misinformation.
I’m assuming you’re referring to the Fortnine video discussing the pads for impact protection and how they don’t protect you from impact. If you’re wearing gear you won’t get pebbles embedded into you. The pebbles will not go through your abrasion gear.
It wouldn’t have gotten so scratched up if you’d have left it home. Jeez.
(J/K)
Yeah, got one just like that.
Helmet means full face, fuck everything else.
Please don’t forgot to wear a helmet when riding on 4 wheelers or ATVs. I’ve seen far too many life changing injuries on those damn things. I forced my own brother to get a good helmet when he had one and it saved his life. He flipped the damn thing on top of him and only came out with a shattered wrist. His helmet cracked like an egg but his head was fine.
When my kid was a kid he was riding around on one of those little 50cc quads. They don’t go very fast, and he was just on flat, level, ground, so we didn’t bother putting a helmet on him. My friend and I were standing there watching him, and chit chatting. My son started getting more daring, and gassing it through figure 8’s and almost tipped the quad a couple times leaning the wrong way, so we decided that he should put a helmet on “just in case”. A couple minutes later he flipped the quad and broke the face guard of the helmet in half. That would have been his jaw, had he not been wearing the helmet. So yes, even when you’re going slow, and just diddling around on a quad, you should always wear your helmet.
Please don’t forgot to wear a helmet when riding on 4 wheelers or ATVs.
Also, just because it claims to be an all terrain vehicle doesn’t make it true. I would avoid riding these in any wooded areas or on sloped or rough terrain while riding solo.
I work in a trauma ward that has an ATV season. I feel like the stigma of wearing helmets has reduced over the years, as I’m having to put less people in orthopedic helmets every year. However, there are just as many people getting crushed by their vehicles.
4 wheelers have a nasty habit of rolling and pinning their riders. If this happens and you’re alone it can easily cripple or kill you. One of the more common severe injuries is having your leg pinned against the motor or exhaust and having your leg or arm slowly cooked to the point where they need to be amputated.
My friend flipped a quad by himself and the end of the handlebars landed on his face, shattering his orbital socket. He laid up there half blind on the top of a mountain until his wife got worried and went looking for him a couple hours later. Thankfully he had a full recovery, but sheesh!
I met a guy in middle school that got pinned under his dad’s 4-Wheeler. If he’d not been alone, he could have easily been pulled out, but he was suffocated by the 4-wheeler. No traumatic injuries at all. Just slowly ran out of air.
Unfortunately, that’s not an uncommon experience. For some reason a lot of parents who normally wouldn’t leave their kids unsupervised with a 700 pound piece of industrial machinery, are completely okay with letting them operate and drive a 700 pound piece of equipment with virtually no safety features.
I’ve never heard of a single person who has regretted wearing a helmet, yet people are still incredibly resistant to the idea.
I just don’t get it.
I spoke with a guy, strong cycling supporter with influence in our local government. He made it clear that he views helmets are unnecessary “with safe cycling infrastructure.”
While I get the logic, the reality is that a large number of crashes (reported as half) are single bike accidents with no involvement of another vehicle (i.e. car).
This is why, even when you look at the underreported stats from the Netherlands, cyclists have very high rates of head injuries. They don’t wear helmets, have the gold-standard cycling infrastructure, yet crack their head open.
The point is, don’t be stupid and just wear a damn helmet.
“Don’t you know, our hierarchy of safety controls is so good, we don’t even bother with PPE at our site” said no intelligent engineer ever.
Resistance to PPE (helmets) baffling. It’s such low effort to wear. I feel naked without it because I’m just used to it (Australia, helmets by law, but also by common sense to me…)
safe cycling infrastructure does nothing to prevent you from having a sudden equipment failure and finding yourself going over the bars face-first, or from just being an uncoordinated idiot who wipes out for no reason and gets a closed head injury. I had a crank fail on my bike once, snapped in half in full sprint and I wiped badly. helmet did its job and I was thankful to have it, because there’s no predicting stuff like that
Yup. I have two family members who were in serious cycling accidents. One was from a stone that he didn’t see. He didn’t have a helmet on and almost didn’t make it.
The second was city incompetence, which resulted in a crash on a bike path. They were wearing a helmet and probably only survived because of it.
I was on a group ride a few weeks back, and one guy’s bike slipped from under him (wet metal bridge) and his head slammed into metal. His helmet destroyed, but he carried on like nothing happened.
Stupidity.
There isn’t much to get. These people are stupid and can’t make logical decisions.
Not everyone is cut out to live past 40.
One of the most absurd things I’ve gotten heavily downvoted for on reddit is for saying people should wear helmets no matter how good the cycling infrastructure is. Not that it should be mandated by law, but that it’s simply the wise thing to do. Then people are like ‘wELL I gUeSs YoU ShOUld THeN wEaR a HElmEt whiLE walKinG tOo’
Fine, then don’t wear a helmet. It’s not my head.
I didn’t use to wear one when I was a kid either but nowdays it feels like driving without a seatbelt. Hell, I might even just take my bike for a test drive around the block after having done some adjustments on it and I still go grab my helmet first.
Not that it should be mandated by law, but that it’s simply the wise thing to do. Then people are like 'wELL I gUeSs YoU ShOUld THeN wEaR a HElmEt whiLE walKinG tOo
I don’t think people really understand just how devastating head injuries can be, and just how easy it is to get a tbi when on a surface as hard as concrete.
Even when doing something as simple as walking/running on wet concrete is deceptively dangerous. Every summer the trauma ward I work in has to deal with dozens of kids acquiring life altering tbi for doing something as mundane as running near a pool.
The ironic thing about bikers not wanting to wear helmets is that if you’re not lucky, you’ll end up being fit with a soft shell one at the hospital after you’ve bashed your head anyways. I’ve fit a bunch of people with orthopedic helmets for not wearing helmets over the years.
TBI = traumatic brain injury.
Yep. I was friends with someone both before and after they bashed their skull on concrete in a roller skating accident. They were never the same, and they weren’t different for the better.
dozens of kids acquiring life altering tbi for doing something as mundane as running near a pool.
😬 yeesh, the mental image.
Yeah, pediatric care is both tremendously rewarding and horrendously soul crushing depending on what department you’re working in. You eventually build up some callouses over the years, but I’d be lying if I didn’t admit summers haven’t lost some of its luster because of my job.
Engaging with families who went from having some of the best time of their lives to the worst moments of their existence over the course of the evening is still tough.
At that point, just let them self-select out of the gene pool. In a few generations, maybe our descendants won’t be so adverse to basic self-preservation and common sense.
This is why, even when you look at the underreported stats from the Netherlands, cyclists have very high rates of head injuries. They don’t wear helmets, have the gold-standard cycling infrastructure, yet crack their head open.
This is just completely wrong. Netherlands overall has half the per-capita TBI deaths as compared to the US. Now, is a higher portion of their TBI deaths bike-realated – I mean sure, because lots and lots of cycling is done there – and not as much car-driving. But your chances of getting your head smashed is lower overall compared to the US, even with our stupid obsession with helmets.
This is just completely wrong.
Nope.
“While national infrastructure ministry figures report 14,000 seriously wounded cyclists in 2019, the most recently recorded year, VeiligheidNL estimates that there were actually some 80,000 injuries of which 50,000 were serious. The organisation reportedly came to its estimate on the basis of 14 accident and emergency wards’ figures.” (SOURCE)
And…
“A new report from the Dutch road safety research foundation predicts that if cyclists in the Netherlands always wore a helmet, there would be 85 fewer road deaths a year.” (SOURCE)
So yeah, while their per capita rates may be lower than some other countries (or higher when you factor in the extra 80,000 injuries they failed to include in their figures…), the fact remains that cycling infrastructure alone doesn’t prevent accidents, and helmets are one way to downgrade the severity of an injury, or avoid injury altogether.
I had only fallen once with my bike as an adult. I live in Sweden and our cycling infrastructure in my town is g r e a t. The problem was that it was spring, so all the gravel/sand which had been spread during the winter was now on bare asphalt. I turned left and while the wheel turned, the bike did not.
There ain’t much good infrastructure can do about gravel on asphalt.
Thankfully I didn’t hit my head as it would’ve surely been a pretty bad accident. Instead I just hit every single boney part on my left side.
I don’t get their logic either. You can clip a rock and fall of your bicycle pretty easily at speed. TBI is no joke.
people are still incredibly resistant to the idea
in the us* (for some reason?)
helmets are pretty standard where i live, you will very rarely not see people using it.
helmets are pretty standard where i live, you will very rarely not see people using it.
Do you have laws that require them to be worn? Australia, for example, has mandatory helmet laws.
I always wear a helmet, except in bed.
different kind of helmet
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oh no never ask the dutch why they are not wearing helmets, the cyclists will send every excuse your way
They just think they’re all such good cyclists, and therefore never have an accident. Weird.
One of my coworkers is a story of a single bike accident. He was riding uphill on a road when his front fork broke. He went over the handle bars and head/face first into the ground. He had his helmet on, and was still knocked out. He was found in the drainage ditch on the side of the road after he was reported missing.
He has no long term damage today, but that certainly wouldn’t be the case if he wasn’t wearing a helmet
WTH how long was he out if they got to the point of reporting him missing?
You don’t have to wait a certain amount of time to report someone missing. If your partner says “On my way home” then is 2 hours late and not responding to calls feel free to report them as missing. They could’ve easily been in a major accident.
yeah, that still means the guy was out for 2 hours tho
Where did that idea even come from?
The longer you take to report someone missing, the harder it is to find them.
I assume from crime dramas to heighten the tension
It’s the “don’t tell me what to do” mindset
it’s crazy how my brother doesn’t wear a helmet. Even my adrenaline junkie dad always wore a helmet (he did have some accidents when he was younger so that probably helped)
Eat crayons, don’t become crayons
Found the marine.
Cool but can I get another model? I feel like the white shit wouldn’t be great for visibility
Don’t wear this particular helmet, kiddo
Good time to remind people, any helmet that has been in a crash, even ones that have just been banged around really hard, should not continue to be used.
Helmets have crush zones and structures that are designed to fail (inside and out) to protect you, but once they’re used/deformed theyre done. Reusing a helmet beats nothing but you really should get a new one after each incident.
Idk, I had a few minor accidents with mine and it looks and sits ok. I think it’s a rumor, spread by moto equipment corporations in order to prevent me from ending my own life in the next one
A little too subtle there, methinks
Looks like 3 different people didn’t get what you said.
11 now. I wonder how high it will go.
Reading is hard.
