Neoliberals have no comradery and see each other as competition. They look for opportunities to tear each other down instead of supporting each other, thus making their community weaker as a whole.
Whereas the communists support one another and seek to help build their community as a whole, thus leading to a stronger, more supportive community.
“The animal species, in which individual struggle has been reduced to its narrowest limits, and the practice of mutual aid has attained the greatest development, are invariably the most numerous, the most prosperous, and the most open to further progress.”- Peter Kropotkin
TLDR- Sucks that you don’t have our level of solidarity, libs.
Yeah, this is probably one of the best online communities I’ve ever participated in
Much better than ceaselessly arguing about which Fallout game was the best
The answer is New VEGAS
And 2.
2 is also good
Have I told you lately that I love you?
Wanna join our polycule?
do you accept himbos and bimbos@[email protected] I think this can be arranged.
Himbos, thembos and bimbos unite!
I know it babe
🥰
Look, in this house we ceaseless argue if Mr. House is closer to resembling a vampire or a lich.
I always thought of him as undead Walt Disney
He very much is an undead Walt Disney, without the cute mascot. That being said, I have always really really really wanted to see a Fallout: Florida done by Obsidian, but I am pretty sure that is never going to happen, and if it does, Bethesda will just absolutely shit the bed on it. We got close in that one Fallout 4 expansion, but even then it was kinda half-assed, because it didn’t really deal with the actual living conditions of the people who operated the rides or the community surrounding it.
Omg, Florida Fallout would be perfect. I mean it’s already a dystopia. Can you imagine the Fallout version of Wastelanders rediscovering the Scientology building?
Oh yeah, I think the funniest possible thing is that the apocalypse actually makes Florida less dystopian. I mean, it’s still just as dangerous wildlife-wise, but the lack of a strong police state actually improves community conditions.
I can solve this argument right fucking now.
He’s the mecha version of a Necrarch aka, a vampire with lich characteristics. The vampire counts even have the mindless army going for them. (They ironically have lich underlings I think.)
I fucking hate that Warhammer already has a solution for this, but of course it does. Well played, but I wanted to argue using traditional DnD monster categories, because they are so damn vague.
I mean its technically still a vampire so…
Which one has a weakness to golf clubs to the skull
This is the only online community I feel comfortable enough to not just lurk but actively comment in. It’s great.
Much better than ceaselessly arguing about which Fallout game was the best
[struggle session]
Well it was New Vegas, clearly. Unless you like 1 or 2 cuz I haven’t played those and they are completely different styles of games and it’s okay to like them more.
We are united in spirit and purpose, comrade. We are one well-oiled shitposting machine. For every poster that falls, ten posters will take their place.
They say that Hexbear only has enough keyboards for half of its posters, so they send people into threads in pairs, and when the first poster is banned, the second picks up his keyboard and continues posting
This is unironically the funniest post ever put here, I’m reporting you so the mods can read it
I hope this results in my second site tagline, I would be over the moon
I love this SO MUCH
this deserves to be a site tagline
I’m just doing my part!
They also don’t have their own owls
Eat shit, liberalsWho could have imagine that Capitalist Liberalism, an ideology based on greed and low grade solipsism and would lead to a lack of community and solidarity.
Bread daddy had some bangers for sure
Neoliberals when it comes to posting
100%.
When I’m forced to spend any amount of social time with liberals, especially the more reptilian ones you encounter in academia and managers, especially if they have an explicitly perverted ideology of neoliberalism, and even when they are suposedly best friends, I recognize after not much time that they actually don’t like eachother. They hate eachother. They are jealous, petty and envious. They are all insecure. Their understanding of generosity and sympathy is absolutely reducible to a market relation of exchange for profit in purely inhuman sense, and not even in a progressive social sense of reciprocity. They often dontunderstand that friendship can be good in and of itself, perhaps because they are so alienated and toxic that they’ve forgotten what actual friendship is, and that love is not reducible to material or economic dependence (fantastic scene which shows this in season 3 of Succession, in Italy between Tom and Greg).
I’ve had many ex-liberal friends become communists just because they were so alienated by their liberal friends that they started hanging out more with communists and were like “oh damn these people actually like eachother and don’t try to demean eachother”.
Almost all the communists I know who come to hate eachother do so cos of theoretical and practical political beefs.
a coworker explained to me that he was suing his sister in court because he loaned her money for rent and she hadn’t paid him back. I took a full 30 seconds to respond because I couldn’t fathom treating anyone, leave alone family, so transactionally. it’s not like he needed the money - he was just willing to trash his sister’s life because he felt entitled to.
Yeh when I hear shit like this I’m unable to treat the person in question as really human (in a normative sense). Someone must have really lost - or never had - some really basic moral and emotional capacities to be able to think like that about their sister. People like this need to be terrified into submission and shamed for ever having thought like that, and punished if they did it prior to a socialist society.
if the CPC managed to reform the former emperor of China, I hold out hope that all of these cretins can be reformed.
Sure. Although we both know as a matter of historical fact that’s very far from always being the case. Reeducation and reform are not inconsistent with facing consequences, taking one’s medicine, laying in the bed one has made, etc. Indeed the latter are likely part of the former imo. For me humans are an intrinsically social and political species, in virtue of our evolution and our capacities, and this determines what our material interests are as a species. When someone is so anti-social to the point of being willing to sue their own sister out of entitlement, they are actively contradicting the interests of humanity. It’s a sign of some of the most depraved transformations of human beings I can think of and should be cursed like the plague.
I think it’s a matter of social conditioning, though, not an intrinsic part of most of the people who behave this way (though this antisocial behavior leaves a lot of room for psychopaths to operate). “one must pay their debts” is ingrained in us as a truism from birth. I suspect many have never even considered the possibility that loaning money itself was considered a despicable act in many societies, or that it’s possible to relate to other human beings in a way that’s not transactional. this fact gives me hope that we can recondition most of these people - we must at least separate them from society and try. if they’re truly irredeemable, throw them in the volcano. but we must hold out hope for the possibility of human growth and change.
I migrated from Lemmy.world just so I can upvote communists bullying liberals lmao
is praxis.I’m thinking about making a alternate on another instance so I can go downvote libs.
Are downvotes disabled at Hexbear?
yep, we didn’t like drive by downvotes from lurkers. everyone must post.
mostly transphobes, who we then purged ruthlessly
We don’t have downvotes, so we respond.
Lemmy is much more fun since Hexbear joined, leaving lemmy.world is the best decision I made since I came to the fediverse.
Libs don’t know what having fun means. Everything is constantly assumed to be totally serious at all times in their spaces and they don’t know how to like… Chill the fuck out? Half the posts people are making are from the toilet on a work break. It’s just not that serious.
If they chilled out and enjoyed themselves a bit more the whole thing would be 100x better. This is the primary difference between us. We’re trying to have fun.
Investigated here after the pre-last resort defederation from .world and was confused why people having fun was being construed as "The rhetoric and goal of Hexbar are clear based on their announcement: to “dismantle western propaganda” and "demolish organizations such as NATO” shows that Hexbar has no intention of “respecting the rules of the community instance in which they are posting/commenting.””
It’s like they tried to sound smart and lost me at the 'I came here and looked around for 5 seconds and realized it’s not what they were saying it was."
pre-last resort
what a phrase.
No, they’re just bigger and don’t get counted
It’s part of why we’re haunting the lemmiverse rn. users in other instances will downvote and move on, we can’t
no, everyone must post
Based
Based lol
You’ve found your people. Welcome to the team.
Now do it again to Hexbear so YOU can bully Liberals
It’s because I upvote anyone with pronouns in their username on Lemmy
It wasn’t fun at the time, but I’m glad we had the pronouns struggle session long before federation.
it shouldnt have been a struggle session at all lol
I’m here for the adverb struggle session
Really?
Since when did it become okay for everyone to just recklessly sprinkle adverbs all over their sentences like they’re trying to season their bland speech? I’m looking at you, “literally” abusers. It’s “I’m tired,” not “I’m literally tired.” No one thought you were figuratively tired, Karen! Adverbs, more often than not, add absolutely nothing of value. They’re just these annoyingly redundant, excessively ornamental words that people use to sound more sophisticated or to emphasize something, but they end up making sentences needlessly complicated. And if you’re like me, who prefers things straight to the point, it’s infuriatingly frustrating to deal with.
Let’s talk about how confusing adverbs can be. You have words like ‘nearly’, ‘barely’, and ‘just’. So, if I say, “I just finished my work,” what do I mean? Did I finish it a moment ago, or am I emphasizing the surprise that I finished at all? And then there’s “He’s pretty smart.” Is he actually smart, or just somewhat smart? It’s like the English language decided to go, “Hey! Let’s add words that can ambiguously modify the meaning of other words and create mass confusion!” Why? Just WHY? Can we, for the love of clear communication, make a collective effort to minimize our rampant adverb use? Or at least use them properly? It’s not that hard, folks.
(I asked chat gpt to be an angry redditor)
I’m looking at you, “literally” abusers.
I didn’t expect you to get personalAdverbs, more often than not, add absolutely nothing of value. They’re just these annoyingly redundant, excessively ornamental words that people use to sound more sophisticated or to emphasize something, but they end up making sentences needlessly complicated. And if you’re like me, who prefers things straight to the point, it’s infuriatingly frustrating to deal with.
I love how chat gpt can’t stop itself from writing like this in an argument about why you shouldn’t.
it is about as smart as your average
user
In an ideal world yeah. The silver lining is that it purged a bunch of terfs and people with hidden chud tendencies so we’re probably better off for it.
Everyone talks about it like it was a big one, but the subreddit was home to so many different nominally leftist tendencies and a lot of the more reactionary elements needed to be purged before this community could become what it is now. Can you imagine this place if it were full of bad faith devil’s advocates in every thread about trans issues?
So that’s why I view that struggle session as necessary. It served as a honeypot that lured all of the most bigoted users into exposing themselves at once. It’s also a moment in our history that we can point to and say that this issue has already been definitively decided. We support trans people here, end of story, and anyone who doesn’t like it can eat a quick ban without a second thought. On any other forum you’d get endless relitigation and cliques arguing that their buddy’s ban was undeserved, but here? Crab party, baby. No drama, no arguing - just crabs.
I remember being so confused at the time why it was even an issue for people, transphobes can eat shit in addition to a ban
Yea like I understand not wanting to put your pronouns from an info sec perspective, but you can just use different pronouns or pick none.
I don’t. if you care that much, lie. lying about yourself periodically is great from an infosec perspective because it makes it unclear which bits of info can be stitched together into a profile of a user. if lying about your pronouns makes you uncomfortable, congrats, now you understand why trans people don’t want to get misgendered online, and all you’re missing is why we don’t want to get singled out for having pronouns set while the vast majority don’t.
I mean, it was big in the sense that it spread over dozens of threads and hot relitigated every couple of months before the mod team came on board with purging them on sight. otherwise, I agree. it was good and necessary, and this site wouldn’t be the place it is without them. as a trans person, this is the only website I feel totally comfortable being out on that isn’t an exclusively trans space and it’s entirely because we successfully changed the site culture. it gives real
vibes on the capacity of people to grow and change.Our nefarious plans are in fruition
Yeah, drama can be good sometimes. Better than letting it fester.
No struggle sessions give a great opportunity to purge
Remember that one guy who went to Stupidpol to cry about it
I think it happened a couple of times lmao
Damn, based
Tbh, I rarely even have to check someone’s pronouns when commenting because using someone’s hyperlinked username is clearer anyway (which is why there is no other explanation than transphobia to want to deny others the ability to display their preferred pronouns).
But now pronouns allow me to quickly tell whether someone is a hexbear comrade.
Also it’s kinda fun to see the ladies coming out of the woodwork to make fun of libs
mfw I get ratioed by an instance that disabled downvotes
lmao for real, we operating at half power and still winning
It’s simple, I see Hexbears that I have spent the last THREE YEARS posting with, and I upvote.
Comrades stick togetherLike, we all know each other and have an ACTUAL COMMUNITY. Of course we do.
These liberals see each other as nothing, remember nobody, and build no unique culture of their own. They have no relationships with each other. They don’t get it. We actually like each other. I care about people here you liberal losers.
@[email protected] I want you to read this.
You need to understand that we’ve all been here 3 years already, we know each other, care about each other, have a real community with a real unique culture forged through bonds and laughs and drama and dumb shit. We have an actual community, not just a bunch of people that don’t know each other who press updoot and downdoot and generally just see one another as faceless individuals. We trust each other and genuinely like each other.
I genuinely hope that you can create something like it and come to care about the other posters around you in time. You should try to. Build something more meaningful than a reddit clone where everyone treats everyone like a bunch of faceless anons, build a real community.
I love you all
lol they chose instead to post this comment to someone who was arguing with me. I’m honored tbh
Well to be honest, I really could see how you guys care for each other from your interactions on that post. Looking at https://hexbear.net, I think you really do have a real community. However most of the interactions are Schadenfreude—enjoyment obtained from the troubles of others. Among just the first 10 posts on the Local view, sorted by Active, there were 3 posts that were laughing at other people or telling everyone to be meaner to a specific group of people. If you think that a community centered around hating on others is good, then sure, go for it, but I’d rather have no community at all than a community like this.
What I like about Lemmy (and liked about Reddit) is exactly the fact that most people are faceless anons. This is also why I don’t dig Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter because they focus on the user, not on topics I’m interested in. I prefer being a faceless anon to posting about myself and reading about other people. Call me an incel or whatever, but I prefer having communities and friends in real life.
Not to mention the fact that your community has basically turned into an echo chamber of pro-China voices. Maybe both Reddit and the rest of Lemmy are echo chambers of anti-China voices too, but believe it or not, there actually are a few users that are pro-China on there, unlike on hexbear.net where there are no anti-China voices at all. It’s pretty obvious which platform is more of an echo chamber.
I don’t know or care how many people will be able to read this, but allow me to say something in Chinese:
身為台灣人，我實在是很難接受這麼多事不關己的外國人在那邊鼓吹中國統一台灣，在那邊七嘴八舌的說「中國要怎麼侵犯中國領空」、「又是中國飛機飛過大陸然後台灣在那邊叫叫叫嗎」之類無知的話。你住台灣嗎？住中國嗎？知道中國是怎麼樣文攻武嚇台灣嗎？知道聽中國外交部發言人成天嚷嚷著台灣是中國神聖不可分割的一部分是什麼心情嗎？不妨換位思考吧，要是你住在一個被後起的政權逼到一個小島上的國家，天天聽到新政權在說小島也是他們的，脅迫其他國家不可以承認他為主權國家，你會作何感想呢？唉，我不想再多費唇舌跟你們這些會講英文的小粉紅爭論了。
Maybe both Reddit and the rest of Lemmy are echo chambers of anti-China voices too, but believe it or not, there actually are a few users that are pro-China on there, unlike on hexbear.net where there are no anti-China voices at all. It’s pretty obvious which platform is more of an echo chamber.
someone hasnt seen our weekly China struggle sessions
What is the weekly China struggle session?
We only look monolithic to libs from outside because we close ranks against bullshit Western lies and propaganda. But there is ample disagreement here about China and many other topics, and we have it out with each other fairly frequently on the many topics we disagree on. We’ve come to refer to these arguments with one another as “struggle sessions.”
For example, it’s worth noting that we have anarchists here (among other non-Marxist-Leninist tendencies), who are often fairly critical of China when they have a chance to be, without annoying libs getting in the way of the discussion.
I realize you very much have a dog in the China-Taiwan fight, as it were, and I understand your reluctance to support the other side. But, while your island’s history is not littered with as many atrocities as that of my own nation (the US), you really ought to consider, as I and the many Westerners here have, that your country is not on the right side, and is in fact the bad guys. Chiang Kai-Shek was a monster, and any reasonable person should want to piss on his grave. The most effective way to do that would be to work toward reunification, the one thing he opposed more clearly than anything else.
a community centered around hating on others
It’s more of a community centered around catharsis and commiseration, and occasionally changing people’s minds who are open to it, but go off
Edit: oh yeah and comradeliness ofc
federation is kind of the new thing and being mean to libs is flavor of the week at the moment. people will get bored of it after a bit and we’ll go back to our normal posting.
不知道你在这种语境撤这些有的没得民众感情道德绑架理念是几分意思
又没人提倡武合，大家反对的是丑国名面上打着自由民主的旗暗地里进行借刀杀人的参与和干扰东亚地区地缘政治的伪君子行为。湾湾就是美帝独裁梦的弃子，不要说两岸了，这点连这论坛上的老外都很清楚，何必在这装惨诉苦呢
殖人眼里应该只要不是资的本走狗就是粉红吧
首先，謝謝你回覆我。
或許我是在不自覺間道德綁架他人吧，但事實便是他們道德層面上作得不夠好（這樣講好狂妄，但算了）。他們有一半的人是提出了證據和清楚的論述，這種我欣賞。但另一半可就不是了，他們反而是不斷重覆台灣是中國此類的言論，沒有個踏實的理由，或是刷幾個醜得要死的 emojis（而且還超大！）加上一些沒什麼價值的字就走人。
的確沒人提倡武合，美國也確實有些過度干涉其他地區的局面。美國未來可能真的會放棄台灣，但是「獨裁」這兩個字不適合套在美國上吧。美國有一個不受法律約束、擁有無限威權的統治者嗎？美國好歹也有個選舉，姑且不論是否造假，有個選舉就不能說是獨裁吧。習近平才是獨裁者吧。就算台灣真的是美國「獨裁夢」的棄子，這也不是我不必訴苦的理由吧，更不是我在訴苦的事啊！何況我並不是裝慘，是真心對十六進位熊們感到失望。
不知道我哪裡讓你從感覺是個殖人（剛剛還得特地去查這是什麼意思），但我不覺得我的思想有受到任何其他國家殖民。
另外，希望你之後可以不要再用「灣灣」來指稱「台灣」，聽起來很輕蔑。
但是「獨裁」這兩個字不適合套在美國上吧。美國有一個不受法律約束、擁有無限威權的統治者嗎？美國好歹也有個選舉，姑且不論是否造假，有個選舉就不能說是獨裁吧
没有调查就没有发言权，起点如此不同会让沟通很积累，更何况你的口气也没谦虚到哪去。这也就是为什么另一半人不愿意和你正常交流，属于你这意识形态的人外网上真的多到已经懒得理了。我劝你还是去了解了解美帝进百年的政治历史吧，或许你会有所收获。要推荐的话可以在贴里问
Tbf this is a very unusual time in the websites history due to the federation, and sorting by hot or new or, uh, “all time - month” will look very different.
It’s also just false that there are no anti-china people. For example, we have a weird Khrushchevite who says that he and only he is the one good head of state to hold office at any point from 1950 to now.
You can also find plenty of people who have criticisms of China (myself still included) but just hate the bullshit western articles that get shared on lemmy.ml or whatever. Between
- a group where 98% of relevant users are vehemently anti-china and 2% are for, but there is a profound consensus among the 98% that mediabiasfactcheck.org is a good website and the BBC is objective in its coverage of China as it puts out absolute pablum articles against it
Vs 2) a group where (let’s just say) 100% of the user base at least supports China over America but they are able to have real discussions about journalistic epistemology and media bias that doesn’t equate “unbiased” with “bipartisan”.
I think 2 is a lot less of an echo chamber because the presence of people with absolutely moronic and uncritical responses to media are not a substantial indicator of something succeeding in not being an echo chamber. Consensus within a finite population is a real social phenomenon and the vast majority of people can be reasoned with over time.
Edit: “but you just like your own media!”
Look at what we actually talk about. There is some use of Chinese or sometimes Russian press for reference, but the focus is overwhelmingly still on western sources because you can find a lot of useful information even in spite of the author’s intentions much of the time, and no one is using some Chinese NGO as a fucking measuring stick for what source is objective and what isn’t (and Russian media is automatically criticized, but that is an aside).
Ngl, right now the lib dunking is the like, idk, thing we’ve been doing now that hexbear has been released onto Lemmy. Personally I haven’t really been doing much of that myself except for dunking on some I saw being homophobic in someone’s replies.
But yeah in general we’re not as like universally pro China as we seem from the outside, ngl I’m like more hesitant to be all in for China than some of the other users on this site, it’s just that when it comes to arguing with libs we don’t split from the general hexbear line
But yeah there is a strong sense of community on hexbear, these people helped me understand and come to terms with being trans, the OP of this thread is actually mutuals with me on mastodon and in discord DMs with me and we’re in a discord for trans communists together. She’s given me a lot of really helpful advice and explained a lot of theory to me, and she (and several other hexbears who follow me on fedi) helped me get past my alcoholism. Like I’ve also seen some of the users here manage to crowdfund to avoid homelessness, get hrt, money for food when they can’t work due to an injury, get medical necessities they otherwise wouldn’t be able to afford and the like
TL;DR: we have a real sense of community on
Liberals actually went along with Fukuyama’s “you will pay for your identity markers and you will like it” smugposting. It’s probably a part of why they tend to have walls of Funko Pops and need to tell you about the specific craft beer they sip while writing editorials.
they tend to have walls of Funko Pops and need to tell you about the specific craft beer they sip while writing editorials.
I hate how this isn’t even a contrived stereotype anymore. Have literally met these types and it’s all they have to justify their “everyone’s experience is unique!” slogans
“everyone’s experience is unique!”
There are a staggering number of combinations of identity markers you can pay for! It’s like the NFTs of the offline world!
you see, consumption is actually identity. the more you consume, the more idententer you are. self-actualization means boxing yourself within the narrow confines of what brands want to sell to you. why yes, I am very smart.
self-actualization means boxing yourself within the narrow confines of what brands want to sell to you
If you put on the glasses, that’s directly the message of contemporary advertisements. “Buy brand! Brand is superior to competing brand! Look at this fizzy cleaning animation!” tactics are long gone. Brands are now purchased identities and lifestyle signifiers and that’s much worse.
From what I’ve seen, there’s no real difference between lemmy.ml, lemm.ee, and lemmy.world. They’re all the same attempt at trying to be a Reddit clone with the same Reddit defaults as comms. If you merge all three instances together and merge the comms that they share, they would be absolutely zero difference. I guess lemmy.ml is lemm.ee with socialist characteristics while lemmy.world is lemm.ee with fascist characteristics. To me, the biggest difference between those instances is how they see us and whether they are federated with us.
There are definite differences.
Lemmy.ml has moderation that’s closer to the moderation here but without kicking people out for being libs. Hate is well moderated.
Lemm.ee is the closest to emulating reddit while remaining a real form of politically neutral. Hate is well moderated.
lemmy.world is emulating reddit, including its censorship of the left. Hate is badly moderated. Reports of actual transphobia go ignored.
Your “characteristics” assessment isn’t really that far off though. I am an advocate of lemm.ee and would prefer for it to become the largest. Lemmy.ml will become leftist in the longterm in my opinion, Hexbear influence is now very significant on it.
It’s just a lot of thoughts going through my head since federation. I feel like there’s going to be one Reddit clone that will absorb members from all the other would-be clones. Most people will choose the largest Reddit clone by default, which will snowball until there’s only one clone left. Right now, the favored Reddit clone is lemmy.world, but the admins are apparently paranoid about us creating wrecker alts to ruin their shitty instance, so that could be a source of instability. I agree about lemmy.ml. For lemm.me, I’ve noticed a lot of banned users come from that instance and it feels like we get the most pushback from them. I wouldn’t be surprised if they eventually defederate from us, at which point lemmy.world would just completely absorb lemm.me’s users. From the perspective of an incredulous lib who doesn’t understand fascism even when it’s biting them in the ass, the only difference between lemm.me and lemmy.world is one instance federates with Hexbear while the other one doesn’t and once the instance that federates with Hexbear no longer does so, lemm.me just becomes a smaller lemmy.world. I dunno, it’s just a thought I have.
As an aside, here’s an interesting thread in beehaw about whether they should just defederate. I think most people have predicted beehaw would eventually wither away, but I didn’t expect the process to happen this fast. It’s also very interesting how even the libs at beehaw recognize some of the flaws of Reddit (they’ve taken out downvotes like us for largely the same reasons). They at least understand that trying to recreate Reddit when Reddit already exists is a terrible idea. However, being libs, they are hampered by having a terrible intellectual framework. They also have a huge civility fetish such as some loser in that same thread shamelessly admitting they would deal with a transphobe than some angry person.
lol they’re down to 290 users/day. Their decision to defederate so much has fucked them.
Hexbear has very low user churn so we get away with low growth sources to maintain community health. They on the other hand have very high user churn due to users having no political motive for being there.
On Lemmy as an independent instance you need to solve this or you die.
For lemm.me, I’ve noticed a lot of banned users come from that instance and it feels like we get the most pushback from them. I wouldn’t be surprised if they eventually defederate from us
My experience with the instance owner has been good. They are committed to neutrality while maintaining strong hate moderation. I don’t think they will defed, particularly if they see us as people promoting them because we prefer them to lemmyworld being dominant, but I’ve been wrong before.
How “gated” is that community? As in: How hard would it be to grow into that community? If I migrated to hexbear, would I be treated with suspicion as an outsider, with wary indifference, or welcomed immediately?
The arguments and descriptors I see here are appealing, but I’ve just recently started using Lemmy and I’ve got this lingering sense of not belonging here (yet), hence ny insecurity.
We love new users! Like the other reply says, there are some things we won’t bend on, but below that there are a lot of differing opinions. Come hang out with us for a while, comment on some posts, and see how it feels.
Ngl the quickest way to properly become part of the hexbear community in order of like, level of commitment required is probably to join, do like an intro post or something in c/chapotraphouse, maybe join the unofficial hexbear mastodon instance (toots.matapacos.dog) and maybe also like trans your gender or something
Also post and comment stuff ofc <3
Do I have to trans my gender? Can’t I just, like, not have one at all? I’d hate to lug something around I don’t need anyway.
Also, what the hell is that instance name?
Thanks for the pointers though!
Yeah being agender is cool too <3 the trans thing was only a joke really because so many of us are queer
And the instance is named after a south American dog that used to go around biting cops at protest lol
Yeah being agender is cool too <3 the trans thing was only a joke really because so many of us are queer
Oh I figured, I just wanted to make a joke of my own at the expense of gender :D
a south American dog that used to go around biting cops at protest lol
Huh, I wonder why. Did they smell of pork? ;-)
So long as you follow the Hexbear party line you’ll be welcomed with open arms. All you have to do is be on the far left, don’t be sectarian, oppose the US and its propaganda, and love your trans comrades.
Oh, and don’t mention outdoor cats.
Uh… but you did just mention the thing you’re telling me not to mention.
I prefer indoor cats anyway.With “don’t be sectarian” I’m guessing you mean “don’t start fights over the specific flavour of lefty”? By some definition, willingness to bash the fash would also be considered sectarian, hence the question.
bashing the fash is table stakes. we ban anything even tangentially pro-fash. don’t be sectarian refers to useless inter-leftist infighting, which we don’t allow.
the outdoor cats thing is a joke about the very first argument on the website that escalated into a full-blown struggle session (whether vegans stop being vegans if they own outdoor cats - I can’t even pretend to understand the argument).
bashing the fash is table stakes. we ban anything even tangentially pro-fash.
Good.
don’t be sectarian refers to useless inter-leftist infighting, which we don’t allow.
Good
the outdoor cats thing is a joke about the very first argument on the website that escalated into a full-blown struggle session (whether vegans stop being vegans if they own outdoor cats - I can’t even pretend to understand the argument).
Uh… I think I can, but I’m scared to check the logic. Might fry a circuit or three.
welcome home
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you’re all my posting comrades now and you have no choice in the matter
I upvote most comments, gotta share dat dopamine with my comrades
I feel sad when i see a (good and not reactionary) post and it has no upbears based on also having posting anxiety and having experienced no interaction with a post, so if i’m browsing and not logged on, i go on a browser to give it a bear, though since federation i have to be a lot more selective, but ultimately I still upbear hex and lemmygrad posters’ posts
Plantifa! Always glad to see you perk your soft head up in threads
Thanks
I was a little worried how federation would turn out and it’s been the most enjoyable site period its had so far. new comrades to riff with and new subjects of scorn to goof on. I was worried that posting strength had stagnated between CTH and federation, but nope, Hexbear’s still got it!
Whole gangs getting back together, being hooligans. God it really is nice.
Yeah same, I upbear almost every hexbear comment I see unless it’s a really ass take
ya honestly just spreading affirmations far and wide to all my boys
Yeah, I love when the bears turn yellow so I literally upbeat everything basically except really dumb shit
Nooooooooo you can’t just upvote every comment coming from your own instance! That’s brigading! That’s cheating, you have to engage in the marketplace of ideas!!!
Heheh, line go up- hee hee bear go yellow
gives me a dopamine hit every time.
me: why brain, it’s just a yellow bear.
my brain: teehee bear go yellow, number go up, everyone happy
me:
this thread has 500 hundred commentsmy brain: chop chop, get to work
I get stressed that I might miss upbearing someone when I am late to a big thread.
been that way since the old sub too
this shitlib should take a look at thedonald.win if they want to see blatant vote manipulation. our user participation (comments, etc.) is in line with our vote totals
i like how they think the fking Chinese or Russian Cyberinfluence division or whatever would spend any time or effort on a fking site that has 1000 active users at most
Many years ago, before I had even discovered /r/chapotraphouse, I used to post on /r/geopolitics. Of course as you can imagine the self-important nerds there would accuse people left and right of being Chinese/Russian bots. I once asked why the fuck the MSS or FSB or whatever would spend their time shitposting on a sub with like a thousand users and they claimed that “real international relations experts post here regularly” and then I got banned.
Worth it.
at least when we were on reddit it made at least a little sense, since you were connected to a larger site
the ironic thing was that user survey on reddit that found the most active city on reddit was some US Airforce base lol
probably a tell on the quality of American “real international experts” more than anything 🤣
Someone pull up the news story where American military blueprints got leaked 3 separate times so that some contractors could win a nerdy internet argument about planes.
等等，你们发工资了吗?any idea on how i claim my payment from the see see pee? I was promised a substantial payment, however, I have been unable to locate my local secret police station. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Seriously I could really use the money
If any foreign government wants me to post - hit me up in the dms im ready to post on your orders. Payment in advance. I accept gold and diamonds. (NO BITCOIN)
This feels like bait… was going to add more input but also don’t want to be swooped by a three letter agency >.>
I have a special posting policy bulletin for the three letter agencies. please review at your earliest convenience.
Monkey’s Paw: Israel counts as a “foreign government”
They wouldn’t be the secret police if you could find them, now would they?
Plot-twist: it’s actually the the North Korean Cyberintelligence division who are making use of Juche divination to see the future and the revolutionary importance of Hexbear.
Kim Jong Un has actually been posting here personally since it was CTH
He lost weight because he joined our swoletariat comm
I heard he got a rowing machine and massive deltoids
Swole Jong Un
I’m waiting for juche evocation
We already have juche necromancy too. My bet is on juche conjuration coming next for that sweet grease + create pit combo.
Thermonuclear Bomb is a level 9 evocation.
Yeah, our FBI guy is holding on by the skin of his teeth. They keep trying to re-assign him to figuring out if ChatGPT is a Marxist. Ted, if you’re reading this, we’re pulling for you bro. We’re always here if you need us!
He suddenly stopped DMing me the other night and I got worried. Dude’s super stressed. Turns out he just fell asleep drunk again. I’m worried about him tbh #TeamTed
oh is he our intern? I’d heard we got assigned one but I’ve never gotten to say hi. don’t be shy, Ted!
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“Its weird that people in a particualar environment might like what others in that specific ecosystem have to say”
You’re not supposed to talk, you’re just meant to upvote memes.
Owning the libs by being a caring and supportive community.
Skill issue
Concerning.
spoiler
Looking into it
Three Hexbear users preparing to upvote each other’s posts, circa 2023 (recolourised)
im glad i grew up to be a chinese hacker unit in Generals
i could easily have been infantry for the Allies in Red Alert 1 and that wouldve sucked
I ended up finding a job as an Obelisk of Light. It’s not bad work - I mostly just sit there.
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1.2k upvotes on a post with 3.5 comments: looks legit.
35 comments from 35 users with 35 upvotes on average: PROPAGANDA BOT FARM!!111
I have less upvotes and it’s not fair
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No worries, comrade, here we share our upbears just like we share our toothbrush
I now can’t read about sharing a toothbrush without being reminded of Monogatari.
If we’re only averaging ~10 up votes then more people need to sort active/all and join the protracted people’s war.
It’s like we have a whole new side quest option now.
Mostly Normal Hexbear Time : Local Hot
Dunkerinos Extravaganza : All Active
New Gang shall rise again!
They’re conditioned to and glorify negativity, is what it is. I get downvoted for the most innocuous shit when I post or comment in self-proclaimed “liberal” instances.
I’ve been commenting frequently on y’alls posts since you federated. I’ve not received a single downvote here. Not one.
They find even-keeledness and agreeability sinister. That says a lot.
I’ve not received a single downvote here. Not one.
…we, uh, disabled downvotes a long time ago… Don’t worry, downvotes are clearly expressed in words or images should that be needed lol. Welcome, though!
That’s a terrible prank you’ve played on me.
it basically forces people to explain why they disagree instead of bandwagoning like on places with downvotes
or at the very least have to
a person, which gives them a chance to respond, unlike anonymous downvotesYou are getting upvotes though, so we clearly don’t think you’re a weenie
Yeah this was a struggle session we had a while back. Detractors say we disabled downvotes “because downvoting a trans person is transphobic”. What actually happened is that several of our more persistent trolls were rabid transphobes who were creating alts specifically to downvote everything that known trans users were posting. And this was among a large struggle around healthy debate norms on the site and how downvotes led to unhealthy incentives during longer comment chains. The stance is basically, “State your grievance or move on.” (And yes, pigpoopballs counts as a grievance, albeit a very intense one)
it was also that transphobes were expressing discontent through downvotes, including on extremely innocuous shit like the “I love my trans comrades” posts. by forcing them to speak, we got them into the open so they could all be purged. no one can respond to a silent “I disagree” button so it promotes toxicity. if you wanna express your disapproval, put it in words so the person making the original point has something to work with.
I think lemmy as a whole should just get rid of downvotes.
That’s a really good point, and I’m impressed with your community for both coming to that conclusion and taking action.
I’ve been for a while suggesting that votes should be publicly transparent, but I think the solution of just doing away with the downvotes works well.
This is cute
I peek into their threads sometimes and it’s crazy, they just snarkily tear each other down for no reason, sometimes as a first means of communication. Feels so slimy and acidic in there, hardly any solidarity at all
