• capital@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    “The strong should be allowed to do whatever they want to the weak” A statement from a person in a developed country apparently…

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        36 minutes ago

        There are a lot of disingenuous replies in this comment section but I’ll just go on explaining as if you actually don’t understand.

        The rating comment was meant to demonstrate that I am not at my peak physical condition and am more vulnerable than my outward appearance portrays.

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        1 hour ago

        Uh, no. There are quite a lot of laws governing when deadly force is allowed which vary by country and state. I’m quite sure none of them allow it when someone “bothers you”.

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          1 hour ago

          There’s also laws governing what constitutes theft. Your entire argument about needing a gun is dependent on people not following the law.

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            57 minutes ago

            Yeah the people stealing shit are… different people and not me?

            What is your point?

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              45 minutes ago

              The people with guns are different people and not me. Why should I trust them?

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                40 minutes ago

                I mean, I don’t require your trust.

                But consider the consequences if I misuse my gun. They’re quite a lot more serious than those caught stealing.

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                  33 minutes ago

                  But consider the consequences if I misuse my gun. They’re quite a lot more serious than those caught stealing.

                  I agree with you completely.

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        2 hours ago

        And without one, the stronger will always prevail over the weak. I can’t believe I need to spell this out.

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            1 hour ago

            Me.

            And my wife, and daughter. People that, without the use of arms, will always be the weaker given it’s usually men who commit these crimes.

            You’re missing the point - this tool takes physical strength out of the equation for self defense purposes and you’re acting like it’s a bad thing.

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              1 hour ago

              Ah, so what you mean is that it’s okay for the strong to take advantage of the weak when you’re the strong one.

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                1 hour ago

                Please define “take advantage of” in your comment. The entirety of my comments here have been in a self defense context. I don’t see how my owning and carrying a gun means I’m “taking advantage of” anyone.

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                  1 hour ago

                  Interesting how you want me to define terms but haven’t defined them yourself.

                  You haven’t defined “the strong” or “the weak” or what you mean by “self-defense.”

                  Maybe start defining your terms first before you demand it of others.

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                    55 minutes ago

                    You’re shitting me, right?

                    In this thread where I describe my fucked up back, rating from the VA, my inability to win fistfights, my worry about my wife and daughter defending themselves from men. And you can’t figure out what I mean by “strong” and “weak”. Bullshit. But fuck it, let’s do this.

                    You haven’t defined “the strong” or “the weak”

                    Both of these are used to describe ones physical prowess in relation to the other. They’re relative. Someone “stronger” than me can overpower me through physical means and I would be helpless to defend against it, given no other tools.

                    or what you mean by “self-defense.”

                    I’ll just go with the dictionary on this one:

                    the act of defending oneself, one’s property, or a close relative

                    Now feel free to explain what you mean by “take advantage of” in the context of my using a gun to defend myself.

                    Edit: I just fucking knew I would go as far as to define these well-known words to get nothing in return. You can tell it was going that way this whole exchange.

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      2 hours ago

      Try “A government should take care of its citizens.”