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      Authoritarian and anti-democracy, characterized by misogyny, propaganda about past grievances.

      China ticks all the boxes. It’s definitely not communist anymore because billionaires exist there.

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        What a useless definition. It doesn’t even consider the class character of fascism.

        Authoritarian is a useless word. It literally could be used to describe any state.

        China is actually highly democratic, but that would require expanding your bourgeois ideas about democracy and understanding how their system actually works in practice.

        Misogyny is a problem everywhere and is in no way unique to fascism or any political economy, is predates capitalism by thousands of years. I agree it should be abolished, and that is what socialism aspires to do. But the idea that it can be eliminated by flipping a switch is idealist and unrealistic. There is plenty of truth to the critique that patriarchy still exists in China, but the PRC has maybe also done more than any other state to end some of the most oppressive forms of misogyny, for the most number of women, in history.

        Propaganda about past grievances? That is too vague to be meaningful either. Some past grievances, like the Japanese war crimes in China, are legitimate. Others, like conspiracies about “judeo-bolshevism” are not. The term “propaganda” here is loaded too, like if the US government does its best to bury its history of chattel slavery (like it is doing in florida, for instance), would it be “propaganda about past grievances” to fight back against that? Would you tell the grandchild of a slave in Florida that by spreading information as wide as possible to the people about the crime of slavery it is somehow fascist? it makes no sense

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          Authoritarian is a useless word.

          If you’re living in a place where they will drive over you with a tank if you protest the rulers, you’re living in an authoritarian state. This isn’t exacltly a subtle thing.

          Misogyny is a problem everywhere and is in no way unique to fascism or any political economy, is predates capitalism by thousands of years.

          I’m not talking about a few weird comments here and there. I’m talking about the ruling class in China raping women and getting away with it because it’s considered ok for the rulers to rape women in their society. Because it’s a fascist society. Communism is supposed to espouse equality between men and women. But China isn’t communist anymore.

          Propaganda about past grievances? That is too vague to be meaningful either.

          “Century of humiliation! We must allow strongman Xi to rule over us for as long he wants to fight back against the westerners trying to humiliate us!”

          This is standard fascist propaganda, fear of outsiders, citing past grievances as a reason for needing a strongman ruler.

          In reality it’s the CCP is humiliating the Chinese people. It’s a garbage government. The people of China deserve better.

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              Every human on the planet deserves better than living under a fascist regime. Chinese people included.

              Supporting the CCP is supporting fascism. Sorry if that breaks immersion on your little communist revolutionary LARPing sessions.

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                  Nah I live in a democratic country where women aren’t treated like property and we aren’t constantly butt hurt about some bullshit that happened in the past. In fact there are billions of people living in similar countries as mine.

                  Maybe it’s just you and the people around you that are fashy which makes you think everyone is this way. We aren’t.

                  I encourage you to learn about how fascism works so you won’t be so easily manipulated by fascist assholes like Xi and Putin.