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      This is a known phenomenon if not a relatively new one.(I think she started being more vocal about 2018’ish, btw.)

      Also, endorsements need good timing. After the debate and it being close enough to November, it gives he fans time to register and not immediately forget the message.

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    Whatever your political opinion is. It’s a sad place to be that a pop star can influence so many people to vote one way or another.

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      Whatever your political opinion is. It’s a sad place to be that a pop star washed up TV personality can influence so many people to vote one way or another.

      FTFY

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      To be as fair as possible, she did say “vote how you want” (paraphrasing). While yes, she did endorse a particular candidate, and give her reasonings, she specifically avoided telling people how to cast their own vote.

      That said I’m fully aware that the result will be hundreds of thousands of new votes for her endorsed candidate from people who probably would have abstained otherwise. But it’s also worth noting that Trump forced her hand a little by posting false Trump endorsement imagery via “ai”.

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    Honestly, horrifying. She is a celebrity. She should have no sway on politics. It isn’t her field. I’m sure, right now, there is someone reading this and thinking, “This person should shut the fuck up,” but think about all of that power. Now, imagine if that power weren’t aimed against the GOP, but working for them. Do you want a pop star deciding an election on a whim? That’s basically how we got Trump in the first place. This shit really has to stop. I’ve heard a lot of people saying things like, “At least she is doing something good with her popularity,” but is she? Is this good? Or is it just beneficial to us? Ice cream is good. It isn’t good for us.

    Edit: lol, found the Swifties, I guess. To clarify a bit, I’m not saying that she did a bad thing by getting people to register to vote. That’s a good thing. I’m saying it’s bad that her endorsement of Harris is what did it. If she had endorsed Trump and the same thing happened there would be rioting in the fucking streets. Every liberal would be taking the next week off of work to go block traffic in protest. But no, continue on with your lives because the system is working in your favor this time. I’m sure that this won’t come back to bite us all in the ass, again.

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      You do realize she didn’t tell anyone who to vote for right? She included a link to register and provided her opinion and said, “Your research is all yours to do, and the choice is yours to make”.

      Just because the best the GOP could manage to con into joining was the washed up Kid Rock, that doesn’t mean popular celebrities shouldn’t voice their opinions.

      She’s using her platform to advocate that people register to vote, and to make their own decision. I don’t see anyone in the GOP reaching out to try and have more people register to vote. They’re doing the exact opposite and trying to disenfranchise as many voters as possible since, historically, higher turnout works against them.

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        I think their overall point is a valid one. If tomorrow someone with that much influence just decides to voice their opinion it would HEAVILY sway the vote. I’m glad she said the right thing and everything it’s still scary.

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          Good comparison is probably Elon Musk, who has a lot of influence, owns social media, and is the richest person on the planet. Need a few more Taylor Swifts to counter that.

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        Your implication that swhift didn’t have bias in encouraging people to register to vote is laughable. She’s absolutely has been vocal about her opinions.

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          I never claimed she was unbiased. Or that she didn’t endorse a specific candidate. Her choice was clear from the get go, regardless of the endorsement. My point was she didn’t tell people how they should vote.

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            I never claimed she was unbiased. Or that she didn’t endorse a specific candidate. Her choice was clear from the get go, regardless of the endorsement.

            Yet, then.

            My point was she didn’t tell people how they should vote.

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              Petty bickering. Moreover, rather than discuss the topic, you’re attacking the individual through some opinion or explanation they give. Even then you’re doing it poorly. Come now. lol

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                You’re just all sorts wrong. Next time, stop, breathe, and wait 15 seconds to reconsider your post.

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      I was with you until “isn’t her field”, frankly it’s everyone’s field. She is a singer, but she is also a voter.

      I’m tired of this argument. GQP was also telling Kaepernick that it wasn’t his field.

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        “Only the experts governments should have the opinions!” sounds like a typical thing to say by every right-wing asshole when it doesn’t go their way, even as they cheer other imbeciles like Curt Schilling, Scott Baio, Ted Nugent, James Woods, Joe Rogan, Mel Gibson, etc, whenever they spout any batshit, willfully ignorant opinion that just happens to be exactly want the red meat crowd wants to hear.

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          Which is ironic because when the “government experts” said the impact of Covid was real and you should wear a mask, they didn’t believe them.

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            Don’t even bother pointing it out to them, it’s a trap, a useless expenditure of energy wherever reality is elastic to the point of nonsensical, futile like shoveling water in a lake to make a hole and a mound.
            You could present a thousand “gotcha!” moments and not a single one would make any difference.

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      The GOP has their own celebs to include Elon Musk, who has his own fan base and an entire social media platform to endorse those views every day, if he wishes. There are plenty of other well known actors and celebrities that back the GOP as well. But yet, here you are.

      Celebrity status aside, most of those people are actually US citizens as well. While they have larger platforms to speak on, you just complaining about freedom of speech. Just like you are free to spout of nonsensical garbage, Swift is free to endorse whoever she wants.

      this isn’t her field

      What? She is a voting citizen expressing her opinion about politics. It’s quite literally the field of every person in the US.

      Restrictions on any kind of speech for anyone, unless those words pose an immediate threat to other lives, is the exact opposite of the first amendment.

      Learn how rights work.

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        To be totally fair, these people only seem to want the rights that work for them and oppress others. Other’s rights and influence are no longer fair unless they align with their bigotry.

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      So…you have a degree in political science, right? To make this comment?

      Or a sociology degree?

      Unless you have a masters, I’m going to have to report you to the police for making an illegal comment.

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      found the Swifties

      Of course you would assume people who disagree with you are “Swifties” and not just people with better cognitive reasoning than you that recognize your shit take.

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      If you are doubting the reception of what you’re about to say, you should likely rethink your position.

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        NGL, I don’t think this is right. In THIS CASE I think it makes sense, because taking a stance with trump is reprehensible. But changing your opinion ONLY because it might be unpopular is a bad path IMHO.

        We should all check our biases and rethink and research our opinions frequently, but the popularity of a position shouldn’t really make a difference.

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      Oh man… Clear, logical, level-headed, and even slightly left of center bias. Yet you still feel the wrath of militant, radical left here on lemmy. Any dissenting voice in an echo chamber is abhorred.

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        I am the militant, radical left. I’m the socialist. I’m the atheist. I’m the one saying Kill Your Masters. And in this post I’m saying that one person has too much power.

        How many voices would have to be raised to drown out one trust find baby with a record deal? It’s hilarious that until this happened this goddamned website was inundated with memes about Taylor Swift’s private jet habit, but now we’re all supposed to suck her dick because she said she’s voting for Harris and not Hitler? These fickle children.