• Ledivin@lemmy.world
    383·
    9 months ago

    Because one of the candidates that stands a chance of winning is anti-genocide, right? Otherwise this wouldn’t be agood-faith comparison, right?

  • jaschen@lemm.ee
    354·
    9 months ago

    You make it sound like Harris has a monopoly on genocide. Trump has made it quite clear he will increase the amount of genocide compared to the Biden s administration.

      • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
        193·
        9 months ago

        Was she part of the administration that repealed the restrictions on Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory, or the one that reinstated them? Did Netanyahu name a settlement after her in Golan Heights as a way of thanking her for repealing the restrictions?

        Did she say that Israel needs to finish the job and stop recording proof of bombings, or did she say she supports a ceasefire so the Palestinian people can realize their right to dignity, security, freedom and self determination?

        Yeah. Just as hard.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldBannedOP
          222·
          9 months ago

          No she’s part of the administration doing the literal Genocide on Palestinians.

          I’m sure you care so much about Jerusalem though.

          • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
            62·
            9 months ago

            I’m sure you care so much about Jerusalem though.

            Why would you assume that? I’m agnostic, not that I owe you any explanation.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldBannedOP
          118·
          9 months ago

          The meme is using the pretend red line from Democrats in 2016/2020. Gosh darn racism they care so much about that. Can’t comprehend anyone voting for it.

          Genocide? Nah that’s fine.

      • Pyr
        21·
        9 months ago

        Okay, then if there’s really only a choice between the two and they both support genocide just as much as the other, genocide doesn’t really have any impact on whether you should vote for one or the other and maybe vote for the one who isn’t racist, isn’t a fascist, isn’t an idiot, isn’t going to die of a heart attack in office, and doesn’t have a couchfucker as a VP.

        • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldBannedOP
          12·
          9 months ago

          Jill Stein supports a full arms embargo on israel. The race certainly isn’t between Genocide or Genocide.

          • Pyr
            2·
            9 months ago

            You vote for Jill Stein and Trump or Kamala will still be president and nothing changes for Israel. But at least you will feel better.

            • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldBannedOP
              17·
              9 months ago

              Actually if Jill Stein gets 5% of the votes then Greens will get $10 million in funding for their 2028 campaign so it definitely changes things.

              • Pyr
                11·
                9 months ago

                after this election where Trump or Harris will be president. Will very likely be too late to do anything for Palestine in 4 years, which will be no guarantee of a third party option either.

                All the while Trump may be in office because 5% of the vote went to Stein instead of harris and now not only.palestine suffers but also women, black and Hispanic Americans, the lower to middle class, and the lgbtq+ community.

                • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldBannedOP
                  15·
                  9 months ago

                  after this election where Trump or Harris will be president. Will very likely be too late to do anything for Palestine in 4 years, which will be no guarantee of a third party option either.

                  All the more reason to get everyone to vote for Green then since Harris and Trump will make certain of the destruction of Palestine.

  • Jikiya@lemmy.world
    151·
    9 months ago

    Oh boy, another person thinking a lurch towards fascism will help get progressive policies get passed in congress. Or maybe they think fascists having control of the biggest intelligence services in the world will help the leftists thrive? Surely leftists will be just fine if the far right gets all the levers of power in government.

    • Mammothmothman
      122·
      9 months ago

      Its just the right wing hacks astroturfing as progressives pushing the “Dems love genocide” wedge into the progressive mindspace.

          • ccunning@lemmy.world
            6·
            9 months ago

            It sucks, but we need a functioning democracy if we want to make progress.

            Make sure your mask is secure before helping others.

          • TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldM
            21·
            9 months ago

            For Lenin, elections had two major functions. One was the opportunity to make propaganda for socialism: to put across arguments and ideas that could win adherents. This was a vision of elections and election campaigns as a platform. The other function was elections as a means of ‘counting our forces’, i.e. gauging levels of support for socialist ideas and assessing political progress. This could in turn influence what tactics to adopt in a range of areas of political work. Furthermore, if Bolsheviks were actually elected (which did happen) their role was to champion radical socialist ideas and demands. It was to use parliament, which was very limited in actual powers, as a megaphone; not to believe falsely that parliament would in fact bring about significant change. source

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldBannedOP
      119·
      9 months ago

      Whaaaat Trump is also in bed with israel? NO WAY!

      You should look up who posted the article that you linked.

  • popcap200@lemmy.ml
    111·
    9 months ago

    Only one president in US history definitely destroyed the chances at a two state solution in our lifetime by giving Jerusalem completely and totally to one side, and it wasn’t Biden.

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldBannedOP
      117·
      9 months ago

      Ah yes the defining moment of Palestine, not the Gaza Genocide but the annexation of Jerusalem. Luckily Biden has stopped all israeli annexation of the West Bank and your argument isn’t a dishonest deflection.

      • popcap200@lemmy.ml
        3·
        9 months ago

        In past negotiations Israel was willing to return almost all of the settled land, and swap additional land to make up for around 98% percent of the 1967 borders, grant return to many Palestinians to come to Israel, as well as financially support those returning to the West Bank and Gaza, and agreed to halve Jerusalem. The negotiations still failed because the two sides couldn’t agree on monuments in Jerusalem, like Al-Aqsa/The Temple Mount.

        It’s not a deflection, it’s the single most important item of negotiation between the two sides, and Trump has done more long term damage by taking an official stance on that issue than any other president in US history has caused in the Israel/Palestine conflict.