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Horizontally stitched screenshots showing a Google Meet call on the iPhone where the microphone mute icon is highlighted in active mute status while the lock screen displays a mute icon which is not selected and inactive.

Always been this way for months. IIRC, the lock screen mute button is nonfunctional. Mute functionality detailed here.

Latest Versions: iOS 17.6.1, Google Meet 260.0

I should report this bug to Google and not Apple, right?

    • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
      71·
      2 months ago

      I hopped on a meeting with myself for further testing.

      1. I joined a Google Meet.
      2. I speak and see that microphone is unmuted.
      3. I mute in the Google Meet app, which works properly.
      4. I lock the phone and iOS reports my microphone is not muted. However, the microphone is still muted.
      5. I mute the microphone from the lock screen and I remain muted.
      6. I unmute the microphone from the lock screen and Google Meet unmutes.
      7. I mute the microphone from the lock screen and Google Meet mutes.
      8. I unmute in Google Meet and the iOS lock screen unmutes.
      9. I mute Google Meet but do not mute from the lock screen, and I try to use the microphone in another app, but am unable to do so.

      Thus, my perception is that there is unexpected and/or inconsistent behavior here, because the initial Google Meet mute status does not propagate to the iOS lock screen. There does not seem to be an advantage to muting from Google Meet instead of the lock screen because the microphone is unavailable in other apps anyway.

  • callcc@lemmy.world
    17·
    2 months ago

    I’m not sure you understand. There is a mute functionality in Meet and there is one in iOS. This is so that you can have different apps with different states of mute. The OS level control is there so you can mute the mic for all apps at the same time.

    • rekabis
      81·
      2 months ago

      Yup. iOS mute is like a hardware mute (not really, but the “reach” is the same) in that it mutes for everything, everywhere on the phone. Meet mute is only for that program.

      • reddig33@lemmy.world
        25·
        2 months ago

        That’s ridiculously and needlessly confusing. When on earth would a user be utilizing the microphone simultaneously in more than one app?

        • rekabis
          7·
          2 months ago

          I have done it before: on a Signal audio call between multiple people, and had to do a really quick look-up while my hands were busy. Put the call on mute, flipped over to my browser, hit the “speech to text” icon below the keyboard and verbally put in my query.

          With a global microphone shut-off, I couldn’t have done a speech-to-text Google query while being muted on a call.

          Fine-grained control like this exists because being limited to a global mute is fundamentally hostile usability where multiple apps can be used at (mostly) the same time.

          Think of it another way: does your house have light switches in every room, or do you turn all your lights on or off by going to the electrical panel and toggling the master switch for the whole house?

          You’re complaining about “why are there light switches in every room when the electrical panel has this one, big, fat switch at the very top that turns everything off.” Yes, your complaint is exactly like this.

            • rekabis
              2·
              2 months ago

              This is on my iPhone.

              In-app mic mute is limited to that app.

              Muting the mic through the iPhone control panel mutes the mic across the entire phone.

              It’s all dependent on the locus of control. An app does not control the mic across all apps, it only controls the mic within itself. The iPhone control panel, however, is the absolute master control: it controls the mic before any app.

              • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
                1·
                2 months ago

                Thanks so much for taking the time to reply.

                No fair! Why does mine not work that way?

                Signal operated the exact same way as Google Meet:

                Slack was slightly different in that it 1:1 syncs mute states, but across Meet/Slack/Signal, my mic disables and I can’t use it no matter where I mute.

            • rekabis
              41·
              2 months ago

              It’s a common case for most users.

        • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
          1·
          2 months ago

          To your point:

          I’d actually like to be able to use…

          my mic when muted on calls to transcribe notes about said calls!

          No can do…

  • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksOPEnglish
    1·
    2 months ago

    Another test:

    When using Slack Huddles, the Slack & iOS mute states are mirrored 1:1. Toggling mute in either toggles mute in the other.

    Microphone is unavailable for at least iPhone keyboard dictation & Voice Memos while in a Slack Huddle regardless of mute status.

    Tested via Slack latest 24.09.10 just now, same iPhone 14 Pro on iOS 17.6.1.