TLDR; climate change, Russia, supply chain not recovered, labor shortages; more price increases expected :/

  • evranch
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    1 year ago

    As a farmer we haven’t even seen the beginning of food inflation. The entire country and much of the world is in drought, and we’re only entering this El Nino cycle.

    I sold all my animals and my crops are a wash. Drought has crushed yields over a vast area of Canada’s agricultural land. Combining the other factors at play such as war between two massive grain producers, there’s a chance that global food demand could actually outstrip production this year, for the first time since the start of the Green Revolution.

    With that said, processors and middlemen are definitely grabbing the large portion of the increased value of food at the stores. Cattle prices are up but nowhere near the extent that beef has risen, and will soon plummet as animals are dumped on the market for lack of feed. What won’t plummet is the consumer price of beef, I can almost guarantee it. And I shudder to think of what grain and bread prices could be by the end of this year. Very glad to have a freezer of meat, huge garden, a good wheat grinder and bins of grain that would last my family decades.

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      1 year ago

      we’re only entering this El Nino cycle.

      El Niño typically brings rain. In fact, as you know being a farmer, several weeks ago there was drought panic in the market – but with that cycle starting to set in the rains finally came and the prices came tumbling down again thereafter.

      Commodity prices are 30-50% of what they were last year. The grocer price remains high only because it takes a while to work through the system. Next year things will look quite a bit different.

      Drought has crushed yields over a vast area of Canada’s agricultural land.

      We’ve mostly recovered here in Ontario, but true that things don’t look so great in the west. However, the markets aren’t terribly concerned. Wheat, for example, is down 10% in just a couple of weeks. Canada isn’t that significant of a producer in the grand scheme of things, really.

      What won’t plummet is the consumer price of beef, I can almost guarantee it.

      Well, it is certainly volatile right now. The dumping is visible as you can see beef being sold for half the price of the day before if you go to the store at the right time, and then it jumps back up soon thereafter. But, overall, beef lags corn. It will take several years to work its way through the system, just like in 2013. Eventually it will return. It always does. We’ve been here a million times before.

      And I shudder to think of what grain and bread prices could be by the end of this year.

      All us farmers would love to go back to last year’s market, I’m sure. But for the consumer, the rains came at just the right time in the most important places, so things are going to almost certainly going to become cheaper still.

      The cure for high prices is high prices.

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        1 year ago

        The person you’re replying to is a very interesting person indeed. They’re a farmer, an electrician and looks like a fairly knowledgeable, low level programmer as well.

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          1 year ago

          Sounds like every farmer. Who knew they were all so interesting?

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          1 year ago

          The amount of things you need to be able to do as a farmer would astound everyone that thinks farmers are yokels. Run a multi-million dollar business and you need to learn things, who knew?

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            1 year ago

            Not to mention that, save the guilded few who had the farm given to them, one needs a lucrative career to fund their farming habit, so you’re going to find a lot of farmers who also work as electricians, programmers, doctors, lawyers, etc.

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        1 year ago

        the prices came tumbling down again thereafter.

        Not from what I’ve seen. Canola hit another spike a couple weeks ago pulled up by the general veg oil complex, we sold a few loads then, there is some of the usual seasonal drop heading into harvest now. Canola is also driven by demand from crush plants coming online across Canada. Barley and oats are doing well too, accounting for harvest pressure. Which does mean beef will generally stay up based on feed prices that seem baked in for a while.

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      1 year ago

      With that said, processors and middlemen are definitely grabbing the large portion of the increased value of food at the stores

      They always have. But the difference between the farm gate price and the store shelf price has got even wider in the last few years.

      It’s one of the main reasons why my brother and I didn’t take over the family farm when it was an option.