• PLAVAT🧿S@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    183
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    Wondered where I remembered him from, it was this juxtaposition of photos:

    Additional context: around the same time Governor Walz (upper) was signing a bill for guaranteed school lunches the Governer of Arkansas (lower) was signing a bill rolling back protections on child labor.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/gov-tim-walz-signs-universal-school-meals-bill-into-law/

    https://www.npr.org/2023/03/10/1162531885/arkansas-child-labor-law-under-16-years-old-sarah-huckabee-sanders

        • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          38
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          I’m shocked, honestly. Shapiro is the canonical post-Clinton Democrat, all the consent manufacturers were clearly pulling for him.

          As one of the leftmost members of the D voting coalition its a strange feeling to not be getting continuously shat upon.

          • Fredselfish@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            12
            ·
            4 months ago

            Yeah well lets hope this all true. All the articles are saying "sources close to " I want to hear it from her mouth. Regardless I am excited about voting for the first time since 2016 when Bernie first ran. Lets fucking go! Only thing stopping us now is if the GOP cheat which I hear they already planning a coup using the courts so lets make it such a huge landslide they can’t win that way.

          • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            No way in hell they would have picked Shapiro. People would get him mixed up with Ben Shapiro. It’s absurd he was even in the running.

          • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            edit-2
            4 months ago

            Well then every gd progressive who says there are so many better get off their asses and vote then.

            Not upset about the pick in the least but this is progressives time to shine.

            Edit- you all act as if Im rooting against that. I actually want a ton of normal non-voters to actually come out and vote for Harris-walz

      • dvlsg@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        29
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        Whoa whoa whoa. So Harris is laffin, and Walz is smilin??? Too much happiness.

      • frezik@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        23
        ·
        4 months ago

        They want to be at home playing Roblox, but their parents made them wear ties and have their hair slicked into place. All to support a bill where they’re going to be playing less Roblox.

      • PLAVAT🧿S@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        I would also point out, not to give Huckabee any credit, but the silver lining of that bill might allow kids trying to gain freedom from abusive homes, permitting them to go job hunting on their own (although 14/15 seems super young regardless - they couldn’t without someone signing off otherwise). The downsides is parents forcing kids to go to work in dangerous jobs (to your point).

        • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          20
          ·
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          freedom from abusive homes, permitting them to go job hunting on their own

          While i see what you’re saying, i think the lede is buried. the important change in law is here:

          The state also no longer has to verify the age of those under 16 before they take a job.

          The state isn’t even checking how old these children are. And the younger a kid is, the more easily they are exploited. And the power dynamic between boss and kiddo is worse. All this will do is make kids easy to exploit

          I don’t have to tell y’all, right? How many hours got stolen from you as kids? Or what kind of crap did you put up with before you knew better?

        • IonAddis@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          ·
          4 months ago

          Without laws letting child workers maintain their own bank account in their own name without parents being co owners allowed to drain it at any time, children working become money pinatas for abusive parents.

          I say this as someone who would have benefitted from being independent earlier. My uncle did have me work at 14, and when I went to the bank I found he had stolen every penny, and because I was a minor I had no legal recourse to get it back.

          A few years later the courts emancipated me, but it didn’t return the money he had stolen. Mind you, he was not working at the time himself and he got a few hundred from the state a month to care for me, and he spent what he stole on computer parts so he could game.

          Children working only is in the child’s benefit if there are ironclad laws allowing them to keep their money, and right now there is not.

    • danc4498@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      48
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      Gov. Tim Walz signs universal school meals bill into law

      vs

      Arkansas Gov. Sanders signs a law that makes it easier to employ children

      I literally laughed out loud when I read the second headline. The kids faces says it all.

    • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      13
      ·
      4 months ago

      Is he in the Sarah Huckabee photo? I don’t recognize him if he is. That article doesn’t even mention him.

      • Vox@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        4 months ago

        No he isn’t, it’s comparing the two, one is Walz (D) signing a law to bring free lunches for school children in his state, the other is sarah huckabee ® signing a law to claw back child labor laws in her state

        • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          30
          ·
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          I’m not really sure why that would be relevant in this context. Was Huckabee running for VP? Why include her?

          • PLAVAT🧿S@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            17
            ·
            4 months ago

            Primarily because I was sharing how the photos are linked in my memory.

            They’re also chronologically similar, happening within a week of each.

            Lastly, they demonstrate stark differences in policies: a win for the new VP pick who, in my opinion, shows someone who actually cares about children and families.

            • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              34
              ·
              edit-2
              4 months ago

              Ok but do you know how many US Governors there are? 55. You picked one at random and threw it into a comment about a totally different person, place, and circumstance. People might mistakenly think Walz was somehow involved in that shitshow.

              • PLAVAT🧿S@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                7
                ·
                edit-2
                4 months ago

                I can see this from your perspective now, perhaps my context was lacking. I felt it evident as a recollection but those without the context may misinterpret.

                Edit: I’ve added context, thanks for pressing your point!

                • 5too@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  As another perspective - it took me a moment or two to work out what was happening in the second picture, but then the whole tableau made sense to me!

              • odelik@lemmy.today
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                4 months ago

                It took me a bit of morning brain fog processing to understand the context. But then it hit me.

                Tim Walz has a history of delighting and helping people, and the excitement of the people (especially the kids) in the room we elated and the picture captured that.

                In the other picture, the people that were being "helped’ (again the kids) looked unimpressed and even a little letheragic.

                It’s a comparison of how one person & their party can excite & delight while the other person & their party depress.

            • odelik@lemmy.today
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              4 months ago

              There was a ton of ambiguity in the initial statement. I had to read the statement twice and look at the pictures for a moment before I understood the context in my daily morning brain fog. So I don’t fault them for asking their initial question.

              What I do fault them for is doubling down after the explanations.