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    Driver: Let’s just get some photos and swap information, ok?

    Traveler: Ok. [He hands over a traveler’s license in red ink on an index card.]

    Driver: [He glances at card, then paper plates, then traveler.] Ok actually I need to make a phone call.

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    We need courtrooms just for SovCits, that include a nice spectator deck with a bar…

    Also @BonesOfTheMoon you’re the GOAT, always with the premium content for us. Cheers!

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      I’m still perplexed that there are people who don’t try to stop when they see the person ahead of them is stopped.

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      Yeah you only stop at yield sign when it’s overcast and you havnt filled in an N504 form, and the sign is in all caps with red ink.

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        YOU FORGOT THE 45⁰ ANGLE! This contract is now null and void and you owe me based on the below schedule:

        $5000/letter in this response.

        I am to bed your wife/husband/closest living relative within a fortnight.

        Your house is now mine. (If you do not have a house, you must first get one and then give it to me)

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      Always give those a little love tap so they’ll learn to drivetravel with impunity. Can’t move mom’s automobile on a clogged road I don’t pay for after all.

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    He said if I’m not the “name” he was taking it as a no show and told me to leave.

    That judge is awesome. Bullshit is not welcome in their courtroom.

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    I always find it baffling why they think avoiding to state their name is somehow helpful. Do they believe that the court will just say “well, tell your mister NAME that he is guilty and has to go to prison once we actually find him” ?

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      They unironically believe that the government has no power to enforce laws against real living breathing people and that they can only enforce laws against legal fictions. All they have to do is ensure their real person is always kept separate from their legal fiction and they don’t need to follow laws.

      To them, acknowledging your name (sometimes only your name in ALL CAPS) is the same as combining your real person with the legal fiction and must be avoided at all costs. In courts, they will only ever say they are representing a legal entity and will never acknowledge they are representing themselves as that is the same as combining the real with the fiction.

      None of this works because the base premise that the government can’t enforce laws against living breathing people is untrue.

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        Or the fact that any organization big enough to run a country can effectively do whatever it wants so long as they don’t trigger a popular uprising.

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      Essentially, sovcits don’t understand how the legal system works and think judges are bound by the sovcit’s personal interpretation of the literal text. They take this right down to the constitution and common law, ignoring precedent and case law.

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        They even draw on the Articles of Confederation. That thing that was famously superceded by the constitution.

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      It looks like they are treating this like magic. Say the incantation properly and vanquish your foes. If your enemy learns your name they can cast spells on you hurting you.

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      Not stating their name gets them (or at least their strawman) extra charges. Eventually their strawman will have enough magical powers to overcome any obstacle! /s

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    Sometimes I read these and laugh.
    Sometimes I read these and just feel so sorry for them.

    They need help and either don’t know how to ask for it, or just haven’t realised they need help yet.

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      But they know they need help and are actively searching for it. The problem is they are hoping for easy magic fixes. Anything to do with accountability or responsibility is too much effort and immediately ignored. So in their head, they’re looking. But advice to drop the sovcit shit and own their mistakes is met with similar disdain as the local “shaman” offering to heal you with crystals and essential oils.

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    Like surely one of these guys has realised that this shit never works right? Like do the people that make up these incantations and stuff claim that when they tried the judge was like “ah dammit you found the loophole, you win the case and here’s $10,000 for being so smart” or something?

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        We’ve talked about this before, but I suspect the ones that figure it out just quietly give up, and we don’t hear from them again.

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      Sometimes it works for a little while. Like this is a great example. The person gets thrown out of court, and their problem is solved for a while. Eventually an arrest warrant will be issued, perhaps their car will be impounded if they get pulled over in the future. But that hasn’t happened yet.

      And there are situations where judges don’t want to waste time dealing with them, especially if it’s something minor like a Fix-It ticket. I’ve seen numerous videos where essentially the court staff realizes that their job is revenue generation, and spending hours and stays dealing with the sovereign citizens is not cost-effective.

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      It does occasionally work though. The big one is the Bundy standoff, the jury believed the bullshit and the lawyers didn’t properly explain it’s bullshit.