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Corpse size has a lot to do with it. I wouldn’t swim in even a large pool with a dead human in it (knowingly), but one dead fish or rodent or dozens of dead tadpoles or bugs? Not an issue.
Heck, most household swimming pools have dozens of dead bodies in them, but they’re 99% insects.
The whole premise of this meme is a bit silly. If there was a corpse floating near the beach, I think most people might wait for the corpse to be removed, and perhaps even a reasonable cause of death to be determined, before entering the local area. The same is true for pools.
“Smithens, the corpse is growing near me again. Use the pool-skimmer to push it into the deep end”
Ah, so corpse count AND proximity are both factors? Along with knowledge of the presence of said corpse?
And corpse size and species. The variables are piling up… This is gonna be a difficult study
This can be simplified to the individual’s understanding of how quickly they could be touching a corpse.
Corpse size still plays a role. You wouldn’t want to touch a dead tadpole, but you may not even notice.
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Ah no, a dead fish indicates that the water isn’t healthy. You should shy away from it.
Yeah, fish always make sure to leave the water before they die.
Fish tend to die by being eaten, a dead fish that nothing has eaten yet is a concern.
Like too much chlorine?
Now what if it’s a severed human head?
Or a couple of severed toes or fingers?
What about a clipped fingernail? There’s some kind of acceptability threshold here as well.
Speaking of which, what percentage of poo would be acceptable? Does it matter whether or not it’s family?
Similar to corpses, it’s not the %, it’s the accessibility: “How quickly could I be touching a corpse / poo right now?”
Fingernails aren’t flesh; there’s no such thing as a dead fingernail because there’s no such thing as a live fingernail. It’s like shed hair floating in the pool; kinda gross, sure, but not dead body gross
Let’s say intact, whole, but otherwise clean fingernails then.
How distantly related we talking here? Siblings/parents or cousins? We’re not the hapsburgs, no incestuous shit eating in this pool, no sirree.
Hard no, leaking is gross.
What if the head was laminated after it was severed?
How exactly do you propose to laminate a severed head??
I don’t know, I’m just the ideas guy.
Dip it in molten plastic?
That’s not “laminating”.
What about a dead baby?
Dead babies don’t care how many bodies there are.
Ah, the old Lemmy switcheroo!
People will walk through a forest that definitely has many corpses in it. Humans will not walk through an alley that has 1 corpse in it.
Humans have a corpse: proximity ratio that they find acceptable.
Edit: typo
I’d call it a radius, not a ratio, but yep.
I’d also call it a corpse, not a course:
If you knew there was a dead person next door you might be a little uncomfortable, but could go about your day. If you knew there were 50 dead people next door you would need to get out of there.
The number is relevant, not just the proximity to the closest one.
Some humans will go to a Japanese forest for the express purpose of live streaming a corpse.
Ugh I hate that guy
How does graveyards fit into the equation? You could knowingly be just a few meters away from rows of corpses, but not really care.
Does the dirt provide insulation?
Nobody panics when things go “according to plan.” Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell you that, like, you’ll walk through a graveyard, or a morgue, nobody panics, because it’s all “part of the plan”. But when I bring ONE corpse to a job interview, well then everyone loses their minds!
I think the corpse acceptability must also account for whether the person expects a corpse to be present.
Well you can’t walk down ol’ one-corpse alley and not expect a corpse there.
But if there’re two corpses there then HELL NO!
People are often uncomfortable in graveyards and, for example, would not want to walk through one at night when they would be willing to walk through a field.
The dirt does provide a sort of insulation however, as people would be more willing to walk through a graveyard than through a house that had the same density of corpses in the basement. It’s the theoretical accessibility to the corpse that plays a factor here.
Ah, so the corpse acceptability depends on the coefficient of corpse-permeability of the intermediate space as well as the distance.
Lead lined coffins are safer than wooden ones. This might also explain the thick metal doors you always see in morgues on tv.
I think it would depend more on how easy it is to open the coffin. If the lead lined coffin has well maintained hinges that allow it to open with little effort, that’s less acceptable than a wooden coffin that is nailed shut.
Corpse acceptability is inversely proportional to corpse accessibility.
I’ve never felt any feeling about being at a cemetery. I performed hundreds of funeral services and it never came up with any of us doing them and we talked about so much shit being stuck together for over a year more or less with exception to a few rotations. I’m unreasonably curious how common/uncommon to feel uncomfortable in graveyards now.
A lot of human survival is based on heuristics, if you can tell there’s a corpse in something, you probably shouldn’t drink or eat it… As a general rule of thumb
For large body of water since you’re unaware of the corpse two kilometers away on the bottom, it’s probably not an issue for you.
However, primal human heuristics are not calibrated correctly from modern media. There was the reservoir where somebody was caught on camera peeing into it, hundreds of millions of liters of water, and they decided to drain the entire thing to prevent the public concern. That’s just a heuristic run amok
A lot of human survival is based on heuristics, if you can tell there’s a corpse in something, you probably shouldn’t drink or eat it… As a general rule of thumb
And this is why it’s dangerous to drink ocean-water.
Also why you should drink lots of that delicious peepee pool-water
ETA: If you’re having dinner with someone who dies in the middle of eating their food, you can safely finish their food, drink, and poisoned soup as long as they didn’t die face-down in it.
This PSA brought to you by the Society of Selective Listeners
my body is a machine that turns piss into piss
That’s what’s literally happening in your kidneys. Your primary urine is low concentrated, and gets converted into high concentrated secondary urine through several fun biophysicochemical reactions. Boring piss gets to be exciting piss. Wohoo?
Ultra Urea Man! Not the superhero we wanted, but the superhero we needed
The salt an ocean water will make you sick long before you get sick from decay-based pathogens. Takes about 100 g of salt to kill somebody…
And the chlorine and pool water will probably make you feel poorly as well.
You sound like my doctor. Quit ruining my food and gimme my blood-pressure medication!
And this is why it’s dangerous to drink ocean-water.
i thought this was because it was salt water?
That’s what Big Pepper wants you to think
so what does pepper water do then? Heal me?
It takes small bills from your wallet and changes your Netflix password
bruh
You need sugar-water to counter it.
This comment is sponsored by The Coca Cola Company.how much sugar salt water is needed before my kidney explodes?
You need to aim at hyperglycemia and diabetic shock so you don’t need to worry about your kidneys alone.
oh, yeah true i could do that also. Or i could just bomb my kidneys.
Also what is the intermixing of water two kilometers away, especially affected by currents (which I presume, without checking ofc bc this is the internet 😁, are more horizontal than vertical - thus would intermixing occur more readily on the horizontal but the fact that it’s vertical distance mean… what really)? So yeah, it makes sense then that due to the unknown factors, the default would take over.
Sometimes the water sits stable with next to no vertical intermixing and sometimes it intermixes to homogenity. Depends on the external conditions
I wonder if there is a point where the graphs of “perceived effect on the water” cross for both this experiment and homeopathy, and what that means.
It means all of modern medicine is a lie, because the corpse water we drink every day keeps us healthy
You are a little soul carrying about a corpse.
–Some Roman guy paraphrasing some Greek guy.
The salt water helps.
There’s also a water-to-corpse ratio that helps.
It’s less that there’s a specific ratio of corpse:water but whether the corpses have been turned into fish poop yet.
Similar to the water:piss ratio regarding (US?) swimming pools, insofar as the knowledge that the “nostalgic” smell of swimming pools is not the comforting presence of chlorine so many believe it to be, and is in fact the confirmation of a volume of piss in the water that is rapidly nearing the extent of said chlorine’s capacity to neutralize (sapped also by ceaseless sunshine & innumerable contaminants hitching rides on patrons’ oblivious meatsacs).
In short: if you smell “pool”, someone(s) have pissed in it. A lot.
Chlorine reacts with a lot more than piss and you should be far more concerned if you don’t smell it.
Good tip, though the water:piss ratio still stands.
Agreed, I take showers in the morning but sometimes I’ll end the night with a really hot bath, it helps my body not hurt in the morning if I’ve been working hard that day. I will take a piss before I get in the tub but I’ll be damned if I don’t almost always pee some while I’m laying in the tub relaxing. It’s never seemed to be anything to give a shit about to me but some people do seem hyper sensitive to that kind of thing. My partner and I have peed while in the bathtub together before and it didn’t gross either of us out. Maybe it would be more gross if our urine was dark yellow or more noticeable beyond feeling the warmth for less than a minute.
Nope, too much piss. Also, “peed while in the bathtub together” is a bit too far, and that’s not even including possible eye contact. To illustrate: what simple thing makes eating a banana in public creepy/hot? Eye contact. You do you, but stay outta my tub.
This is like eating bugs. Everyone eats bugs all the time, it is awareness of the bugs and bug to food ratio that tends to cause hesitation.
There are molecules of human shit in every pool and they get into your mouth. The density is just not enough to feel the taste or become ill
That old guy swimming in front of you probably forgot to wipe or wash his ass so the density is getting close to detectable sometimes
As they say the dose makes the poison. See ya at the pool
Thus, chlorination.
The density is just not enough to feel the taste or become ill
the chlorine is a pretty important factor, at least in the not becoming ill department
Cmon don’t ruin it, I bet someone will skip their pool today
Lots of various kinds of poops on the ocean too…
Dilution is the solution to this pollution
You leave it in there long enough it might get cloudy enough for you not to see it.
That’s when you add the noodles and let it sit for another six minutes.
