I was looking forward to trying Sync today now that it’s live, but my enthusiasm was immediately dampened after seeing the “Data Safety” section on the Google Play store.

Liftoff has been great, and want to say thanks for making an awesome app. This will continue to be my daily driver.


Edit: for clarity, because the post got way bigger than I expected.

Sync looks like a fantastic app, and the dev/s should charge whatever they feel is fair for their efforts, even if that’s through the usual ads + ad tracking.

My intent was just to post here in /c/Liftoff to thank the Liftoff devs for managing to somehow offer an awesome app without any of that.

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      Willing to pay and not wanting to support certain monetization models are two different things.

      That’s like someone calling someone who buys games but refuses to spend money on microtransactions cheap.

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        What monitization models? Sync offers multiple options, including subscription or a one time payment, and a one time payment for the ad free option specifically. What other monitization model would you prefer exactly?

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          When I first took a look it was only ads with a subscription model to remove it. Later got a $20 removal, but I don’t like that it uses stuff like admob for personalized ads over just generic ads.

          As for what type of monetization I prefer would be only a paid app without any ad integration at all that needs to be disabled. Or Apollo method of one single app without ads that pushes users towards the paid tier by having the free experience be very limited with one account sign in restrictions, no submissions, filter limits, etc.

          Anyways, I uninstalled and moved on to other apps. It wasn’t something that I found vital to use.

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      People pay. Sync is the greedy one. Fuck ads therefore fuck Sync.

      What you think Sync pays to the Lemmy devs and the instances it connects to?

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        Why do Sync dev need to pay Lemmy and the instance?

        The price is for the client, not for the Lemmy platform or instance hosting (which is free, being the point).

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          Why put ads (on something with no ads) and have users pay to remove ads. And then complain people won’t pay other people who put in the hard work.

          That’s some first class disrespect. To both users as well as platform developers.

          You enjoy that first class crap.

          Edit: It’s official, the $ync army consists of insufferable, ball sucking douchebags.

          Edit 2: Stync brought all those spez loving people over, or they paid for a marketing campaign. $100 app for some mediocre frontend shit. Insanity.

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            You are talking as if Sync dev went and plastered ads all over Lemmy web app, Voyager, Infinity, Connect, Thunder etc.

            Those are still ad-free, so people who love them can continue using them. Those who want to pay Sync can pay Sync. Lemmy platform remains unchanged. What’s the problem?

            You enjoy that first class crap. Edit: It’s official, the $ync army consists of insufferable, ball sucking douchebags.

            I do enjoy Sync and I hope to continue to. I ain’t mad but you seem to be, I just don’t understand why.

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              If people like something, they are always owed it, in it’s fullest form, totally free of charge! Devs can just use a food bank …/s

              Some of these comments though…

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              The problem is that in multiple communities Sync has people spamming their ad infested crap. I can only block so many communities and suckers, including you.

              Edit: Thanks $tync for Lemmy, for bringing all those brainless consumers into the conversation. Better get rich of it fast.

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                Just wait it out, people are excited about Sync but they are not gonna post forever. Block me if you want, you do you.

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                You say that as though there aren’t far more posts on the front page of lemmy right now trashing sync than those praising it. Most of the discussion around it is people trashing it, not people praising it

                Let people use what they like and get over the fact that not everyone wants to use the same software as you. The fact that you feel the need to block people because they enjoy a piece of software you don’t like says a lot more about you than it does about anything else

                I really don’t get why so many people are so bent out of shape about an app they don’t even have to use,

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                  Well, on my feed there aren’t. I do let people use what they want. I’m just pointing out that putting ads (or insane payments) over open source software is a dick move.

                  Stync is just some front end stuff. If you think it’ll help the platform than throw your cash at it. I think it’s a farce.

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                    Well, on my feed there aren’t

                    That’s odd, given that you’ve posted comments and many of the highly upvoted anti-sync posts on the front page rn lol - meanwhile I can’t find more than handful of barely upvoted pro-sync posts on any community that isn’t specifically for the app.

                    I think it’s a farce.

                    Yeah you’ve made that pretty clear lol, and you’re welcome to think that, given that no one is making you use it, nor are any of their users basing their decision making on your personal opinion about it.

                    I’d also disagree that a $20 one time payment for high quality software is “insane” but clearly you and I have very different views when it comes to this stuff, so no point in arguing back and forth.

                    If I were you, I’d just move on and ignore it - spending as much energy (literally doz3ens of comments based on a quick look at your post history as this on not liking something as trivial as a lemmy app isn’t healthy, especially since your comments seem to be getting more and more toxic as your “discussions” continue…

                    EDIT: Just navigated from this comment to my front page and saw this

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                    Of the top 10 posts, 5 (and mostly the 5 nearest the top) are people complaining about Sync, so tell me more about how it’s the Sync users who are spamming all over Lemmy about their app preferences lol

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                Hi Zeerover, please go back to Reddit, we left because of poisonous little kids like you.

                Thanks and have a nice life

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                  I haven’t been on Reddit for 6 years and you can’t even read (or type) usernames correctly so you go and try to have a life.

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            I completely disagree with you, but am upvoting for the entertaining temper tantrum. Great stuff.

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            The sync dev’s source of income is the app. You don’t have to use the app if you don’t want to pay for it you big whiny baby.

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        I will say in Sync’s defense that they have given free access to many Lemmy moderators and the instance admins of Lemmy.world so they are contributing in some way

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        All code should be free! No one should ever make a living writing code. It makes no damn sense. Writing code is the easiest thing on the planet. Asking money for it is pure greed.

        I guess I should have added “/s”. I really didn’t think it was needed. 😅

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          Not what I said. You can write code, open or closed source, and make a living. Putting ads on an open source foundation is for cockroaches.

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            Putting ads on an open source foundation is for cockroaches

            Literally the Web and Android’s (Googled) ecosystem… is ads on an open source foundation 🤷‍♂️ and people outside of techie circles couldn’t care less about that, they just want stuff that works.

            Is it really worth kicking up a stink over a single app that affects you in absolutely no way? Different strokes for different folks. Unlike the web, you have the choice of multiple good FOSS apps to access Lemmy from, no adblocker extension needed

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          Believe it or not, I dont think these posts are part of a mass conspiracy to indocrinate the world into the Sync cult. Touch grass, bro.