• Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      See that makes it sound like you’re getting called out on much more anti-voting sounding commentary than the above stated point of view

      An image that isn’t helped by the fact that the post makes it seem that you are completely oblivious to how often tankies try to start fights defending the choice to abandon the most vulnerable for the sake of some bougie kid socialism accelerationist shit.

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        I never advocate anti-voting rhetoric, but think any and all means should be used to defend a socialist revolution once it has occurred. The only thing i want ro accelerate is class conciousness, which must be achieved before a revolution can begin to occur, most humans are too brainwashed by Capitalist propaganda for that revolution to be successful.

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          but think any and all means should be used to defend a socialist revolution once it has occurred.

          You would kill and imprison those that would vote differently or disagree with your revolution? That’s exactly why all those revolutions in Russia, China, N Korea etc failed. As someone who Trends anarcho communist I am down for some communism. But you Marxist leninists never learn.

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              They aren’t socialist anymore. And they aren’t communist now either. They’re state capitalist. That seems to be a solid failure. Even the party isn’t holding regular elections for many of the posts. Xi jinping has moved back into the Forbidden City and is basically their de facto new emperor. Enriching his bourgeoisie friends. While throwing miniscule amounts of scrap towards the proletariat. Sounds pretty failed to me. And likely to lead to heavy class strife soon since they failed the class war. But please do go ahead and continue to flail and cope uselessly.

              It’s extremely telling that that was what and how you chose to respond. Not addressing the fact that you would kill and slaughter everyone who disagrees with you.

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                Bruh i literally identify as a tankie im not naive enough to think we can vote away the oppression of the ruling class lmao

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                  Bruh i literally identify as a tankie

                  At least you admit it.

                  You know that’s not a good thing, right?

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                    They’re probably a teenager, it’s a harmless phase and it’ll pass. No western tankie has effected anything of consequence since… probably Kim Philby?

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                  I don’t care about the ruling class. What I do care about is how cultish delusional people like yourself threaten our brothers and sisters.

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                    How do i threaten your brothers and sisters? Are they landlords or Billionaires?

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                  What, in your view, makes you a tankie? And what do you think people mean when they use the term critically?

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                    Because i believe a socialist revolution must be defended by any means necessary once it occurs, knowing full well the ruling class will do whatever they can in their power to prevent it from succeeding. And it is used critically to criticize socialist countries of using force to put down western backed uprisings.

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          Usually “I want to help spread class consciousness” means just saying “hurr durr both sides same,” which encourages people not to vote, which historically favors the conservative candidate.