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Is Yoga Demonic? Exposing the TRUTH about Yoga…

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  • WamGams
    1·
    5 months ago

    Yes, people of all varieties can convert to Christianity. That doesn’t mean all other faiths are demonic.

    • rtwin@lemmy.staphup.nlM
      11·
      5 months ago

      Ok,

      But at least; Yanomamo Shaman Chief Shoefoot(the link i gave) said that about his own tribe’s spirit worship(the spirits being demons). He also shared what their spirits did, and how Jesus set him free.

      More than that, Jesus said he’s the only way to the Father

      John 10:7 So Jesus said again, “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, I am the Door for the sheep [leading to life]. 8 All who came before Me [as false messiahs and self-appointed leaders] are thieves and robbers, but the [true] sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the Door; anyone who enters through Me will be saved [and will live forever], and will go in and out [freely], and find pasture (spiritual security).

      John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

      And He gave promises too;

      John 14: 11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake. 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

      • WamGams
        1·
        5 months ago

        So, in the case of Native Americans, as part of the genocide inflicted upon them, their religions were outlawed and they were overwhelmingly forced into Christianity. They did not regain the right to practice their historic religions until 1971.

        Perhaps his native religion did worship demons, but the vast majority of of Natives did not have conceptions of demons, and many of their religions predate Christianity. If they did worship demons, the only person to blame for that is God, the father himself, for choosing to not reveal his message to them until after the 1600s at the earliest.

        In my mind, if your conception of the supernatural is correct, Chief shoefoot simply traded one trickster god (demons) for another one.

        I’m also not interested in what the forger John had to say.

        • rtwin@lemmy.staphup.nlM
          11·
          5 months ago

          i guess you’re not really interested, because in the recording of Shoefoot which i gave, he actually shared about what his ancestors knew.

          You call John a forger. i wonder what ancient recording exists which you would take for credible/when something old would be credible to you.

          in any case;

          The Israelites were instructed in Mozes law to have 2 or 3 witnesses to establish credibility (that’s around 1500 BC):

          Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established

          Even though that may not be water-tight, i don’t think there’s another way to establish credibility in those days.

          I realized that the New-testament part of the Bible is actually composed with that rule in mind to establish credibility. As in

          1. Up to 4 recordings of Jesus timeline from birth to ascension (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John)
          2. At least 3 events recorded with Jesus showing his divinity
          3. At those events Jesus demanded his 3 closest disciples(John,Peter,James) to be present
          4. Those events are recorded in at least 3 of the timelines
          5. The found writings of 2 of those present, are added to the New Testament(John, Peter)

          The above is shown in this picture:

          • WamGams
            2·
            5 months ago

            …John never met Jesus and his account was written decades after the 3 synoptics. There is also question if he even has access to the 3 synoptics or was just working off 1, or even just portions of one, seeing that his timeline does not follow what the 3 synoptics agree on.

            Data over dogma is a really great podcast. I think you would find it interesting.

            • rtwin@lemmy.staphup.nlM
              11·
              5 months ago

              I’ve met enough people with personal experiences, both before and after Jesus happened to them, which supports what the New Testament writes about Jesus and the spiritual realm. (so no theory, theological debates etc, but personal experiences).

              So the podcast won’t change my mind, but you can pass me the link to podcast.

              • WamGams
                1·
                5 months ago

                I probably can’t give you a link since you probably don’t use the same RSS/iTunes puller client, but I believe it should be on whatever podcast client you do use.

                Christians in the modern world conceive of God in entirely different ways than the original Christians did, and the host of the podcast is a Christian biblical scholar.

                • rtwin@lemmy.staphup.nlM
                  1·
                  5 months ago

                  i don’t have a podcast client. i may find a way to use yours

                  i think the generalization doesn’t do justice. back then and now there’s witchcraft, mystics, religious zealots and everything inbetween. ps. For me, being scholar doesn’t tell me anything about someone’s ability to believe the promises of Jesus and living them

                  • WamGams
                    1·
                    5 months ago

                    When you download a podcast client, just go to the search bar and type in data over dogma. I am sure they have a patreon as well. Many people post directly to there but I haven’t used the service.