https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(1982_film)

one

  • Founders - Change shape
  • Thing - Change shape

two

  • Founders - live in a giant soup and can split off from the soup at will
  • Thing - Can divide up the shape at any time into autonomous functional groups

three

  • Founders - Fly in space ships
  • Thing - Flies in massive space ship

four

  • Thing - Doesn’t like fire
  • Founders - who likes fire?

I posit that the founders are the Thing, but perhaps a group of founders operating in special operations mode. Or they could be children out on founder Rumspringa like Odo was.

  • smoothbrain coldtakes
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    4 months ago

    Founder Rumspringa is my favorite new term. Thanks for this.

    I wonder how violent one of those would be. They were basically infants thrown into space with nothing but genetic instructions to eventually get back to where they came from. Odo and Laas are the only two yeeted offspring we know about, and they were generally neutral in manner towards humanoids, with Laas generally preferring to avoid them and not entirely agreeing with how dogmatic the Founders are.

    I definitely would be more on the spec-ops team side of things myself, unless the Founder on Rumspringa was really jilted by humanoids and was just fucking 'em up for a laugh.

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      4 months ago

      They don’t? I only recall one time in Accession was it mentioned. For the entirety of the rest of the series they were taxied around in spacecraft, even with a few plot points of them being stranded on planets.

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        In Chimera (which takes place after Accession) they bumped into a changeling flying alongside their runabout in a form that was space-faring. I guess the argument would be if there exists a creature encountered by a Founder that can travel at (high) warp via some kind of biological or entirely different means than subspace manipulation.