• Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldOP
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    So everyone is consumed by whether or not Biden is fit to run for president - and we have THIS shit going on…

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        If we were talking about what a pot of cracks the current Republican party is running, this election would be a landslide. Instead, we’re stuck debating if Biden will be an effective 85 year old commander in chief.

        If Biden had gracefully bowed out two years ago, AS HIS 2020 CAMPAIGN HAD SIGNALED HE WOULD DO, this election would be so much easier and simpler. Kari Lake, post-Jan 6th convicted Trump, Mark Robinson. A whole bunch of loons.

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      The problem is, he isn’t fit. He’s just less unfit. People are frustrated that instead of a normal, reasonable alternative, they have to pick the less ridiculous of two ridiculous options.

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        I think part of the problem is that democrats/liberals expect more from their candidates. Republicans just care about winning and destroying the other party.

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          Oh . . no, they - they’re not Americans. They just have thoughts to share from, y’know wherever. Canada, Germany, . . .other. Places.

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              Well, yes, but I meant it much more broadly - the election threads are full of hot takes from people all over, who all point out, quite correctly, that whatever happens in the election will also end up affecting them.

              It’s just an unfortunate circumstance that they don’t have any first hand experience of the process, with it’s many (and sometimes bizarre) quirks, so sometimes the hot takes are not as well informed as they otherwise would be.

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      I really hate how comments like this frame it. It’s a blatant strawman fallacy.

      No shit we all know Trump is bad. Hello? He’s been saying this shit and doing TERRIBLE things for over 8 years now.

      The PROBLEM is that for whatever reason, none of this shit is sticking, even when the media covers things like January 6th hearings, his criminal indictments, his impeachments, etc…

      So while Biden’s numbers continue to decline and Trump widens his lead, are you REALLY going to sit there and say, “hey guys don’t worry, just one more scandal and this time we got him!”?

      So naturally since the cult isn’t changing, we must change ourselves to improve our odds.

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      From now until forever all that the Dems need to say is, “we’re not THEM.”

      The Dems don’t ever need to even pretend to stand for anything or to earnestly propose any positive future to their voters.

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      Biden being unfit and the right being insane are not mutually exclusive. It’s akin to choosing the lesser of two evils, and recognizing that they’re both evil. Meanwhile people are going around online denying that the lesser of two “evils” is evil because it’s not the greater evil.

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        Biden isn’t a good choice, but I would not say he is evil.

        Trump is evil. He is a bigot, a rapist, a liar, a convicted felon, a thief, an insurrectionist, a fascist, a despot, a human trafficker, and a moron.

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            Yeah, but it falls apart when only one half is actually a metaphor and the other half is just a description of the thing.

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              No, it’s a metaphor for being unfit and makes sense. If you want to learn more, check out a middle school English textbook.

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    Extremist pastor Mark Robinson wants to be North Carolina’s next governor, and his vision for the country is one of bloody ruthlessness.

    “Some folks need killing!” Robinson declared in a lengthy sermon delivered on Sunday, which was first reported by The New Republic. “It’s time for somebody to say it. It’s not a matter of vengeance. It’s not a matter of being mean or spiteful. It’s a matter of necessity! When you have wicked people doing wicked things, torturing and murdering and raping. It’s time to call out, uh, those guys in green and go have them handled. Or those boys in blue and have them go handle it.”

    Jesus fucking Christ he’s supposed to be a pastor and he’s giving a sermon advocating killing people.

    The idiocy of evangelicals is just so thick.

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        If he professes to be an actual Christian it’s even worse than that, but. Point taken.

        Obviously he’s an evangelical shithead with zero interest in peace, just like the rest of them.

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          Yeah otherwise he would remember that guy who stepped up at an extrajudicial killing and said “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone”

          You know, Jesus

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              Some scruffy looking communist, hangs out with lepers and prostitutes

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                Eww. Is he at least rich? Does he kick ass and take names? What about a catch phrase, something like, “Ahll be bahck” or “yipee ki yay motherfucker!”?

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                  Well he did say “I’ll be back” but so far has failed to deliver. People have been waiting literally forever!

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      I listened to an interview on the Friendly Atheist podcast with two hate-preachers. They both advocated for the killing of homosexuals. I don’t think it’s as rare as we might hope.

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        My very first thought when I read that is he’s advocating for killing LGBQT+ people. They are wicked in their minds. Unnatural. Have been killing them for probably centuries as it is already. Maybe millennia.

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      I don’t think it’s idiocy. I think it’s cruel people who delight in doing cruel things. And when a guy like Trump, who has managed to use cruelty to get rich and powerful, comes along and gives them permission to fully indulge their cruellest instincts, makes them feel like it’s right and good, they’ll follow that person straight into hell. They’re so excited to finally be able to go out and hurt all the people they don’t like that there really isn’t any line they’re not willing to cross anymore, no moral they’re not willing to betray, to finally get that.

      I don’t even refer to Evangelicals as Christians anymore. They are two different things at this point. If you look at modern Evangelical doctrine and compare it to the ministry Jesus laid down in the Gospels, they are just about as polar opposite as you can get while still name-checking Jesus. I don’t think it’s useful to conflate them anymore because real Christianity, using the actual words of Jesus, might be one of the few effective ways left to argue against all this Evangelical nonsense. I’m honestly surprised that the Christians with real faith aren’t already out there doing it.

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      I mean the Bible is full of killing and God telling people to kill. Pastors have been full of fire and brimstone for generations. Preaching against immigrants in the US basically since the country was founded, burning witches and calling for slaves to be lynched.

      Having grown up a southern Baptist, I can assure you that religion in the South has always been full of this behavior.

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        Ha ha yeah you right about that. Southern Baptists are the old school batshit crazy religious nuts. Still are, really.

        The Old Testament really fucked things up. That’s where you find all the serious, wtf killings. I forget why they created a whole other “New” Testament though.

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      No no, you don’t understand. You see when they finally win and are in power they are just going to all seppuku themselves.

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      You can disagree with him, but having the opinion that people who are “torturing and murdering and raping” need to die is not an unhinged opinion. I would say that many of them dying would be a just punishment.

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    And this guy is a pastor. Not sure if he’s read the bible?

    “Or those boys in blue and have them go handle it.”

    So… in his view, one of the jobs of police is to go kill people who are ‘wicked’. Great. Sure would be nice if the GOP wasn’t completely fucking insane these days.

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        No shit. Talk about completely clueless. Like dude you realize they still hang ppl like you in some states if you’re out after dark, right???

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      Have you read the bible? There’s an awful lot of killing in it.

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        There’s this important guideline said to have been handed down from a supernatural entity , “Thou shalt not kill”. Of course, that’s not followed in the Bible either.

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          "Murder. The Fifth Commandment. But, if you give it a little thought, you realize that religion has never really had a problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason.

          To cite a few examples, just think about Northern Ireland, the Middle East, the Crusades, the Inquisition, our own abortion-doctor killings and, yes, the World Trade Center to see how seriously religious people take Thou Shalt Not Kill. Apparently, to religious folks—especially the truly devout—murder is ne­gotiable. It just depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed."

          RIP St. George Carlin

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      Yeah, and what should happen if “those boys in blue” are the ones doing evil things? Some other group should kill them? Seems like an endless cycle. How/why is this preacher considered a good guy?

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    Just another example of the right saying the quiet part out loud.

    Make no mistake about it - these aren’t just idle threats or emotive rhetoric. These people genuinely want you dead.

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    Between the Supreme Court decision and this guy, how many more times does it need to be said before Biden finally takes the fucking advice?

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      “I’m talking to all of you, here!” continued God, His voice rising to a shout. “Do you hear Me? I don’t want you to kill anybody. I’m against it, across the board. How many times do I have to say it? Don’t kill each other anymore—ever! I’m fucking serious!”

      Upon completing His outburst, God fell silent, standing quietly at the podium for several moments. Then, witnesses reported, God’s shoulders began to shake, and He wept.

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    You’re damn right. ALL nazis, ALL fascists, and ALL MAGAts DO deserve to be killed. We should go ahead and start that probably.

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    I can think of one guy in particular that would make the world a better place by just fucking dying right now.

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    At what point do we cross the line into, “it was self defense” based merely on his speech? I feel threatened. My fear seems reasonable.