I’m not the kind who give a fuck about what other people usually do unless it directly affect me but I’m wondering what’s the opinion about this on Lemmy.
Neither really.
It’s a personal choice. As long as they don’t drive or do anything stupid to others, I think they should have fun. Ii’s not cool as potential addiction is not cool, but it’s not a mental problem either as I both drink and eat junk, knowing very well neither does me any good at all.
Hope that was a decent answer
Depending on the drug (marijuana), your alcohol and junk food consumption would be objectively worse.
Edit: Apparently people lack basic comprehension.
Yeah, my bad. I went back and reread the comment you were replying too and deleted all my knee-jerk reactions based on taking your comment out of context.
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EDIT: The comment above me originally implied that the other commenter was racist for using the word “marijuana”. They edited their comment to have absolutely no relevance to what my comment was about, which is fine, but they also didn’t mention that they did that, which is lame.
My original comment:
Marijuana is a commonly accepted and recognized name for cannabis. It’s the first “also known as” on the Wikipedia page for Cannabis.
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Nobody said anything about combining alcohol and weed.
I said that if you compared alcohol and junk food consumption against weed consumption, you will find that alcohol and junk food (again, not in combination) are objectively worse.
I added marijuana in brackets because I didn’t want some idiot to come and argue how cocaine would be worse.
The thing a lot of people get backwards (fuck the war on drugs actually) is that hardcore addiction is virtually always predated by some type of undiagnosed and untreated mental health issue. To say that another way, mental health issues are not caused by taking drugs. When someone is very unwell and often poor (i.e. low or no access to medical and mental health professionals) they often find a way to self-treat the affliction(s) with street drugs. Those same underlying causes for a more affluent person will be dealt with alongside medical supervision (and often with the same class of drugs) without falling into the trap of addiction (because supervised, and supported).
Nothing cool about being a drug user by choice, nor an addict trying to cope. It’s just reality.
Counterpoint: there are plenty of well off folks taking classified drugs recreationally out of boredom that become addicted. I came from a high cost of living suburbia and there really wasn’t a lot to do as a teenager due to high property values and taxes. Recreational spaces, especially aimed at teens, were basically non-existent. I imagine the same is also true in rural areas, but for different reasons.
I’m not speaking in absolutes here obviously. But it’s pretty well established that a very small fraction of people who take drugs (prescription or otherwise) become what we term addicts. There are lots of affluent addicts and alcoholics (I know plenty personally) but just because they have access to medical and mental health care doesn’t mean every one of them will go there.
You don’t see a lot of upper middle class people end up on the streets with heavy addictions because they can usually get into rehab, get help processing whatever it is keeping them down, and move on with their lives. Lots of poorer people can do so as well (the poverty and “success” porn content out there is easy to find) but for every one of those success stories there are thousands who never make it. I don’t think it’s hard to parse that poorer people have less culturally acceptable means of getting help (if they don’t outright end up in prison for simple possession to begin with, which I’m guessing those peers you’re referring to seldom have to worry about).
I’m not the kind who give a fuck about what other people usually do unless it directly affect me but…
Yeah… I’m wondering what’s the opinion of Lemmy about this… you should read the rest of the paragraph…
I don’t think of it as ‘cool’ - I just view it the same as a preference.
Alcohol, weed, shrooms, and even some party drugs like ecstasy and such, are all fine in my book as long as they’re done responsibly.
I think once you venture down the path of abuse, it’s a problem. That goes for everything in this world - moderation is key.
Heroin, meth, and all the other hard drugs are a problem because they are so incredibly addicting that it’s almost impossible for someone to use in moderation.
It can be either or neither. Context dependent. Although I’m having a hard time coming up with a scenario where being “cool” is affected by drug consumption in any way.
I know my drug smoking ass is cool. 😎
I think it’s a normal thing that people do sometimes
Neither, and also all of the above, plus the list isn’t long enough.
Seriously, it’s not the only two options.
Sometimes cool people do drugs. So do people with mental problems. So do all kinds of other people. But, doing drugs can’t make you cool if you aren’t already. And you don’t necessarily have to have mental problems to use/enjoy any given drug, though some drugs may change that for you eventually.
Neither. I don’t consider drugs being the reason someone is cool nor is it an indicator of mental issues.
I suspect we all have mental problems. Most people are not assessed and are high-functioning, yet we’re not meant to work forty hours a week and live in nuclear families, let alone struggle in precarity. Mental illness is and family dysfunction are intergenerational and have been through the twentieth century, if not through the common era.
While there are recreational uses for drugs, I suspect most drug users self medicate, which is to say the drugs they take unpresribed are used to cope with symptoms of stress and existential horror, the same way we take drugs to cope with migraines or allergies, or chronic symptoms.
Does that mean they’re uncool? Not at all. Self aware people, deep thinkers, philosophers, artists, scientists and engineers all often drink, smoke, binge on edibles or engage in street chemistries in order to cope, and the ones who are self-aware are able to recognize it’s a thing they need right now, and that others who are addicted are not to be blamed or judged by whatever gets them by, night after night.
I used to consume drugs, and I’m cool and have mental health problems, so, both!
I think drugs are mutually exclusive from coolness or mental issues. Heck, animals sometimes consume drugs for recreation.
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Cool people can have mental problems.
Cool people can have mental problems rather or not they like drugs.
One of the uncoolest things I think people do is ask black and white questions like this while acting like alcohol isn’t a drug.
Prohibition is control.
But… Uncle Sam said drugs weren’t cool!
On a more serious note, my views are if it doesn’t hurt anyone else and you fully understand the implications and consequences, you should be allowed to take whatever you like.
I’m terms of mental illness, I’m leaning towards drug addiction being a result of it rather than a cause. If someone is facing depression and doesn’t have the support they need, they may turn to drugs as their only option.
