Hello new Lemmy friends!

Word on the street tells us our community is regularly making it the all page. While this is very cool news to hear, we can see how the sudden emergence of our posts in your feed might feel jarring and probably raises some questions. And also how, without knowing the backstory, our community might appear less than virtuous, so here’s a very brief introduction which hopefully will clear a few things up.

The woman we’re discussing is a body positive influencer and media personality who has gained fame and wealth by lying, manipulating, exploiting her children for content, plagiarizing BIPOC creators and blaming her BIPOC content editor for it (thereby ruining her career), among other things. Her fraudulent behavior is no different (I’d argue worse) from the likes of Jay Shetty (google him if you don’t know who he is or what he did). She’s the latest in a long line of grifting influencers who are abusing their power, taking advantage of their position and exploiting their followers. The difference is that she’s Canadian. Our laws around social media and advertising aren’t as clear (and where they are she’s disobeyed them), add to that, our mainstream media has protected her from those who’ve tried to expose her grift and silenced/intimidated anyone who’s tried to speak out.

Our Reddit sub was taken down due to reports of copyright infringement, which is unfounded and categorically untrue as no one ever tried to steal her work and pass it off as their own. The mods have made an appeal. While at first glance it may seem like we’re just “shitting on her” the sub has been more devoted to investigation and posting proof of her lies than just bitching for the sake of bitching. The reality is that she’s hurt, manipulated and let down a lot of people. She stole intellectual property and employment, caused mental distress and has repeatedly told lies to boost engagement and profit off her audience, so people are understandably upset that their voices are being silenced.

We’re grateful to have been welcomed so kindly by so many of you, and to those sticking around to watch the drama unfold, we’re glad to have you!

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    This is such a good summary, thank you! I hope the appeal can be won but I’m starting to like this community too.

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      You bet! And ya I feel the same. There’s a simplicity to Lemmy life that I could really get used to

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      I really love this community but, on principle, I think it’s important to get the subreddit reinstated even if we don’t use it as often.

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      I am starting to like this one, too. Still getting used to the new names, and often wondering who has been with us but just chose a different name and who is new lol. I like this though! I hated it while trying to navigate it on the mobile site but since downloading the thunder app it’s much better

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    Hello and a warm welcome from this random lemmy user! Good luck with everything, hope you stick around

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    She has a lot of gall to claim copyright infringement to take down the subreddit when her blog was a textbook example of copyright infringement. Reddit was fair use and if you need a lawyer I know quite a few who specialize in copyright

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        I just noticed it says Copywriter and not copyright- that’s kinda funny

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        Wow! It took six weeks or so but they accomplished the mission

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        I’m sorry to comment on this one again but my brain keeps going back to it. Was this during the Knix trip? It sounds a lot like Alicia. She and Bri had that sunrise chat and they are both rabid for their Princess and would do anything to protect her. Sarah is very good at having her flying monkeys do the dirty work and she pretends she’s above it. The mask slipped a little last week with her story about the person saying they we’re unfollowing because she was droning on about SI.

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        If you look up the word hypocrite in the dictionary her picture is right there beside the definition so maybe she doesn’t see how ridiculous she’s being

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      I thought she claimed harassment, I didn’t know it was copyright infringement

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        It’s flimsy but a lot of these platforms will just take things down rather than fight. She can only claim copyright for the pics and videos she’s taken herself. Maybe buddy Briony claimed her copyright for the pics she had taken - was this soon after the podcast photoshoot?

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          You’re probably right re: Briony. She’s clearly obsessed with Sarah as she scours comment sections so she can block people. Who even has the time?

          Still, the subreddit mods said they never even got a warning. It doesn’t sit well with me that Reddit allows misogyny, underage porn and outright violence but not this. Talk about inconsistent.

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            Briony who went in full designer clothes with friends during covid restrictions to a low price grocery store (as a joke) and was kicked out for making fun of the store and people while filming content? Sounds about white.

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              She whaaat?? Any news pieces about this still around or was it scrubbed?

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                The Instagram post that featured the photo by B, is still active, and the caption has changed, and many influencers who commented on the original photo after it was called out for being insensitive, are no longer there. I found this out from a fellow friend, who also is calling out, influencers, because I had no idea about this. I will say though, because the photo is of B and by her, it would maybe be seen as copyright for you to post? But lesbest on IG has the pics still up (minus a few comments that used to be there including one from a former joefresh influencer ). And the pics don’t discus the anger that was brought up due to it (locals were upset). I remember seeing the snapshot on the old Snark on Reddit.

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                  that’s interesting that the influnencers removed their names. >

                  @facialSwelling 1 • 26 seconds ago everything

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            The whole thing smells funny - no warning is unusual and it happened after the rules were tightened up. I thought it was all very well run so they had to try for the copyright infringement. The question is why not just remove the pics deemed to be in violation? It’s really heavy-handed

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              Exactly, it could very easily have been remedied. I really hope mods win their appeal as they/we didn’t do anything wrong or unusual.

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          I know that there is also the fair use act, so using the photos for educational purposes and not claiming them as your own is supposed to be protected. But a lot of platforms just take the stuff down and give you a hard time proving it, from what I’ve seen.

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            Yep, it’s bullshit. The onus is actually on the person who claims copyright to prove it, so if you appeal a copyright claim then the person who reported it has to show how it is copyrighted in a certain amount of time or it will get reinstated. From my experience though, the pulling it immediately already does the damage and people don’t want to bother fighting it. I don’t know if counterclaims would help the sub get reinstated though.

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              Wonder if Reddit has similar rules because they’d be in violation themselves for removing the sub based on bs copyright claims.

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    This should be in your sidebar.

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    Has someone sent the copyright infringement thing to Janette? She was doing something on plagerism?

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      While someone is messaging Jannette can they let her know the plagiarized was used in blogs before the cloud tailor?

      I know she’s an investigative journalist working so hard for us. Surely she’s aware but she keeps saying it was stolen from someone but someone else had already shared it ! She would have asked the person she said it’s stolen from , right ? I was googling because I couldn’t find the plagiarism stuff with the subreddit gone and it came right up.

      It can’t be private label content, Janette would know for sure how often that it used. Especially in fashion and lifestyle content. It has all the tell tale signs of being that but Janette would know she’s the real deal.

      Please tell me this isn’t going to fall apart for us once Janette starts digging deeper!

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        Hi Snarkers, I figured I’d sign up and respond back directly.
        Hello Joiyfulgrrrl, we’ve chatted before. I suspect you aren’t overly concerned about things falling apart once I start “digging deeper”. I know you are here to discredit me and make fun of me. Perhaps try using various voices when doing this. You always push similar accusations, with the same voice in your writing. It’s a dead giveaway. I’ll address your comments. The plagiarism. A) In the case of the Cloud Tailor copy used by Sarah for a sponsored by Dyson post-- even if camp papaya pays off the original writer so they claim it’s “private label content”, I already recorded Sarah’s website and my plagiarism search when I originally spotted the copy (2023). I also consulted a plagiarism expert. Soon after the plagiarism was posted on Reddit a Reddit member reached out to Sarah to ask her if she was aware of the plagiarism on the birds papaya corporation website. Sarah was shocked and surprised and was going to handle the plagiarism “head on”… while blaming her staff. I was sent the reciepts for that text conversation. In that text conversation, Sarah acknowledged that YES this is plagiarized content and yes it’s on her corporate website. Sarah also blew off a second sample of plagiarism- the Two Year old’s b-day party post. Sarah said it was “just ideas she found online”. The person texting Sarah left out the word for word copy from that post. I guess Sarah figured she could blow that one off. If Sarah’s company had used private label copy why wouldn’t have Sarah said that before. It’s been what? 14 months? B) There are more samples. I never play all my cards. C) In regards to your other posts and your tone in this one. I’m not an investigative reporter. And? Can’t a person try something new? Try to thing of this as my first walk down the runway. My form isn’t perfect but I’m doing my best. D) Digging deeper, I’m already dug and done. Anything new the snarkers find and handle. I don’t go to war unless I’ve already won. Common sense. E) If you want to shame me, calling me stupid or using this emoji 🤪 or Jan doesn’t do much. You hit a nail when you touched on me being a survivor of child abuse- maybe try to mess with my head there. You seemed to like the response you got on that one. F) don’t even bother coming back with OMG I was just trying to help, OMG I’m not that person, omg are you crazy. It’s boring and I expect a more worthy opponent. G) tread lightly on this page. People deserve a space to gather. I can be a real bitch when I’m annoyed. Can you imagine if I shared that phone call I received - asking what I want? That’s one hell of a red flag 🚩.

        Thanks Snarkers I hope you don’t minde jumping in for this one. I’ll go back to reading.

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            You seem in a tizzy! I am a reporter. A lifestyle reporter. Would you like to speak to my editors? Have you heard of LinkedIn? Thanks for sending the bossbabe article. Yes there is repetition of copy. I will send it to the plagaisrm expert this week. In my opinion there are portions that are plagiarized. It’s not enough of a match to come up in an search. Sar*h’s copy matched exactly to Cloud Tailors copy so it came up in a search. BTW. One person plagiarizing doesn’t erase another person doing it.

            You seem panicky. Are you ok? If it’s upsetting to be on this page don’t be here. Once I get the plagiarism results I’ll post them on Instagram. With a few other samples. My question still holds if S*rah “bought” the article, then why the texts messages that state she agrees it’s plagiarism and blames her staff. Will you ask her next time you see her? I’ll dig away to try to find the OG article. I’ll get to that search in the next two weeks.

            I’ll also speak to Dyson’s agency. I’ve worked with them over the years. Don’t worry I won’t mention names. I’ll just get their thoughts on … what did you call them, private label articles-- we used another term at Chatelaine and the Globe and Mail. I checked my most recent contract from Dyson, for me, Dyson and their agency required custom content that hadn’t been used previously. No pre-existing rights, intellectual property/ content… blah blah blah.

            FYI- we aren’t the bad guys. The the list of lies tied to person you are desperately protecting is long. The DM’s I am getting with receipts, I can’t keep up with. There are that many. As for the filtering. I won’t back down on that. I have eyes. Your friend can produce original files if she wants. Those can be read for adjustments. The people here aren’t looking to hurt anyone, we want honesty. Also who cares if people filter. No one. But when you preach that you don’t. You can shift a whole industry and push people unfairly out. When media starts covering for influencers who lie. And LIE to their viewers and readers, I’m invested. That’s a story. You see I care about what’s going to be around for the next generation. Totalitarism sucks.

            Lastly a question for you, how’s your cat? 🐈‍⬛

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              You’re amazing, Janette!

              This question is not necessarily for you but anyone reading. Was the infamous Michael Jackson picture for the same Dyson partnership? I’m sure Dyson would like to know that someone they paid to represent them both plagiarized and filtered her image into something unrecognizable. How are people supposed to take that seriously and find her remotely credible?

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                MJ was for Dyson but a separate campaign (hair care). Ironically I handled the CP24 portion of that same campaign. The agency didn’t ask for any thing MJ-specific.

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                  They stalk us across all social media platforms and have said things that make us think it’s one or two individuals in particular. It’s pretty amusing especially as the person in question is not actually friends with the person/s defending them (they just think they are). It’s kind of sad.

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                Why don’t you just use her name? She goes by Janette on her socials and professionally. You seem incredibly immature and petty by that alone.

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            You’re just full of straw man arguments that aren’t going to hold up. I suggest educating yourself before posting since you end up looking foolish.

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        I will tell her to check out this post. She knows this community exists but isn’t snarking here with us.

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          I just answered. This person isn’t concerned. They are attempting to undermine the accounts of plagiarsm. I hope you don’t mind me jumping on. I figured it’s a more efficient way of handling the comment.

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            Glad to see you here and of course don’t mind! Definitely more efficient way to handle it.

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              I’m happy to send you a full resume of my past and current volunteer work and activism. It’s extensive. You can also visit the orange hearts 🧡 on my stories archive. My current focus is on women’s health, supporting small business and Tyre Nichols. I’m sure you are following the current trials it seems everything is being done to further hurt his family. My volunteer time for that has been spent on producing short videos, campaigning on behalf of the family, supporting his friends and pushing press releases to the media on the list I was asked to handle. If you would like to chat about the Middle East, the war, the horrific human tragedies let’s set up a call. I warn you it may require hours, especially with all the countries and powers at play. I’d love your thoughts on the Wagner Group. This talk can be overwhelming. If you aren’t up for it I’ll send you the link of a great organization. They support refugees in a hands on way. We are expecting more Palistinian refugees. One small thing I’d like to do is to study art therapy. I feel useless most of the time. What can we do? Perhaps that’s one thing I can learn. Help in a tiny way. Below is an image of the stories archive you can find more. The skateboard tab is for Tyre. 🧡

              If you are looking to cancel me, maybe say I have stuffed toys?? Or something like that. If you want to shut me up. That might be harder.

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                You don’t need to answer to that poster. Some people hitch their star to the wrong wagon and don’t know when to let go. Perhaps they would like to tell us why there’s been a bot buying soree going on the last few days. It’s not a good look to boast about having more than 2.3 M followers when so many are ‘bot and paid for’ I’ve noticed they’re going top tier now and getting the ones that engage.

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              Jan Jan? Did you just leave the playground? I think it’s time you gave up and let the grown ups handle things

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                This is the same person that was Jen S. It’s a group of maybe 2-3 people who are on the Mccarvell page. I’ll not respond again. :) thank you.

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    Thanks for this! Honestly I just came across a video today and was so confused. I had no idea what I stumbled into lol