• MindTraveller
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    31
    ·
    edit-2
    6 months ago

    The only reason for that is the many genocides perpetrated against members of other religions. Especially in places like Australia and the Americas where Christians were bloodthirsty invaders. By equating the two, all you’re doing is continuing the work of conquistadores and other murderous colonisers. It’s factually wrong, but more importantly, it’s morally wrong. There’s no reason to act this disgracefully.

    • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      24
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      6 months ago

      Europeans regularly killed other Europeans, who were Christian. The natives could have met them at the shore with a stack of bibles and the colonizers still would have slaughtered them.

      • MindTraveller
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        21
        ·
        6 months ago

        It sounds like you’re saying religious genocide doesn’t matter because it would have happened anyway.

        • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          17
          ·
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          I’m saying it was European colonial genocide, religion was a secondary or tertiary motivation, and yes it would have happened anyway

          • MindTraveller
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            12
            ·
            6 months ago

            I don’t care about motivation or how a bunch of murderers felt, I care about the victims of genocide and the loss of massive religious diversity. Don’t you care about that too? Or is the only thing that matters to you what the conquistadores “intended” while they were raping girls and destroying villages?

            • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              11
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              6 months ago

              I don’t care about motivation

              Really? This you?

              The only reason for that is the many genocides perpetrated against members of other religions. Especially in places like Australia and the Americas where Christians were bloodthirsty invaders.

              • MindTraveller
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                12
                ·
                edit-2
                6 months ago

                Ah, I see the problem. You read me say “reason” and assumed I meant reason as in motivation, when I actually meant reason as in cause, because you have the reading comprehension of a 4th grader. Then you proceeded to derail this conversation with a pointless tangent about motivations that nobody else cares about.

                Here, I’ll give an educational example of the word reason as in cause: “The reason the beanstalk grew that night, was because Jack’s mother threw the magic beans out the window into the garden.”

                See? Reason as in cause. You just can’t read properly.

                • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  12
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  6 months ago

                  It’s not a cause lmao. Europeans were going to violently colonize the Americas, Africa, and Australia whether they followed Jesus, Buddha, or no one at all. It’s not like the Bible said “hey guys, those people over there don’t have guns, and they’ve got lots of gold”.

                  Gb2 r/atheism with your nonsense

                  • MindTraveller
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    7
                    ·
                    6 months ago

                    And now you’ve completely lost track of the entire conversation.

                    The causal reason that people today use “religious” as shorthand for “Christian” is that the other religions in colonised continents were wiped out or reduced to a few members.

                    Argue against what I actually said instead of what you wish I said.