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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

New polling shows most Americans and Europeans want the Ukraine war to come to an end.

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New polling shows most Americans and Europeans want the Ukraine war to come to an end.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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https://instituteforglobalaffairs.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/IGA-Modeling-Democracy-2024-The-New-Atlanticism.pdf

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    The invading with tanks and waves of Nazi mercenaries and conscripts is what tends to give that impression.

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      That’s very interesting. Turns out that it’s people who stopped these people

      • https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/
      • https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea
      • https://www.internationalmagz.com/articles/conversation-with-dmitri-kovalevich

      from doing these things in Donbas

      • https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf
      • https://www.mintpressnews.com/volodymyr-zelensky-secret-police-hunted-down-opposition-anatoly-shariy/280200/
      • https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296
      • https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bN68OfFKaWs

      who are the actual nazis. You learn new things every day I guess.

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        I see, I see. The existence of a single Nazi in a country is justification for invasion, and it’s absolutely impossible that nationalists will join the army of any truly just nation when it’s being invaded.

        Bad news for literally everyone, I guess we’re just gonna do posadism now and trust in the Great Divider, the Bringer of Light to purge the filth that deserves death (and everyone else)

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          That’s a weird way to say that literal fascists run the government and the military, and that they’ve been doing ethnic cleansing in eastern Ukraine, but I guess we’ve already established that you’re an utterly dishonest person. Bye.

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            Projecting harder than an IMAX, fam

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              You sure are. I provided actual sources from mainstream western media that back everything I’m saying. You’ve just been regurgitating talking points you’ve memorized this whole time while ignoring the facts. You’re not fooling anybody here fam.

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                Oh yeah, the anti-imperialism talking points handed out by fucking CNN lol, everyone knows they’re hard-line antifa.

                Hey, how many people have died in this invasion, and how many means of production has it seized for the proletariat?

                And on a scale of Fascist Propaganda to Genuine Democracy, how would you rate the validity of the vote to confirm the Anschluss? Compared to Crimean annexation which also featured armed occupation military overseeing the open votes? And a 97% agreement, lmao, like 5% of the population won’t vote no on anything just to be assholes.

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                  You’re literally justifying US imperialism and NATO expansion here.

                  Hey, how many people have died in this invasion, and how many means of production has it seized for the proletariat?

                  Weird straw man that has nothing to do with anything I said.

                  And on a scale of Fascist Propaganda to Genuine Democracy, how would you rate the validity of the vote to confirm the Anschluss? Compared to Crimean annexation which also featured armed occupation military overseeing the open votes? And a 97% agreement, lmao, like 5% of the population won’t vote no on anything just to be assholes.

                  Let’s just look at a few facts about Crimea from a US government study. First thing to note is that it was never part of Ukraine proper. US government referred to it as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. Second thing to note is that majority of the people in Crimea do not consider themselves Ukrainian, and the biggest demographic considers themselves Russian:

                  Maybe learn a bit of history of how USSR cobbled Ukraine together, and where its respective parts come from, and who lives there instead of making a clown of yourself here?

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                    Regurgitating memorized talking points indeed, lol. I know you’re too smart to honestly complain about NATO “expansionism” while also spouting irredentism.

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