Poor guy just wanted to spread vicious lies about people whose children were murdered. Who amongst us hasn’t done that?
My grandma who died in the hospital was a false flag operation.
Please buy my dick pills!
His 93-year-old grandmother died of breast cancer, and he chalked it up to her getting the Polio vaccine 60 years earlier, so this is pretty accurate.
I think Jones’s story is kinda sad, honestly.
I think he’s a genuinely low IQ individual who is passionate about digging around where he shouldn’t dig, and trying to make sense of things. He flew too close to the sun by actually doing some decent investigative journalism and getting due praise when he was way younger and less of a deranged alcoholic. And that success got to his tiny brain, and then alcohol and drugs… And now he’s a deranged lunatic who… Basically wants to spread lies about people whose children were murdered. And he’s so lost in this “truth seeker” identity that has so clearly deteriorated to insanity, that he’s not only willing to, but he is ultimately going to die on this hill.
Not saying he hasn’t earned that, but I guess I’m saying I’d still be interested to know the results of a lengthy psychiatric eval on him.
I’m pretty sure he knew exactly what he was doing. He’s a unscrupulous grifter that was in it for the money from day one. Low IQ is no excuse for being a scumbag.
He’s a unscrupulous grifter that was in it for the money from day one
Yeah, the Sandy hook story was bringing in millions of dollars. He knew very well what he was doing and he kept at it because he only cared for his personal gain. He’s a huge piece of shit.
i honestly don’t care what his intentions were. he created suffering with his actions. in order to prevent that from happening again, he needs to be held up as an example of what happens to people that work against humanity.
Jones is on record that he has untreated sleep apnea. He’s also an alcoholic. The dude has full on brain damage. I’m guessing he’s dead by mid 60s from early onset alzheimers.
Kinda what I mean. Like yeah he’s been milking an evil cow to rake in millions… but honestly, I think his other option is to live out of a van until he has a heart attack. Not saying it isn’t befitting… Just saying. It’s sad.
If you listen to his show, dude really likes movies, especially sci-fi . In another life, he could have been someone with a sci-fi movie themed podcast that I would have listened to religiously. But instead he chose to profit off spreading lies about elections, the climate, COVID, school shootings, etc. Unfortunately, he was born into the John Birch Society and so the poor kid had no chance of growing up decent.
I look at Alex Jones the same way I look at Trump. Both are terrible people who had shit parents and obviously that doesn’t excuse their behavior now, it’s just… sad.
I’m inclined to agree with this. Jones doesn’t seem like someone trying to sell a bunch of crazy conspiracy theories which he doesn’t believe himself. He seems like he’s just genuinely batshit crazy.
My mom was a big fan of his and I grew up in the 90s hearing him everyday. For what little this is worth I think he was at one point sincere. He saw humans as sheep with wolves lurking around that he alone could save us from. I do believe that about the man.
But yeah whatever he once was has no relationship to what he became.
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Good, leave this piece of shit broke and living under a bridge. He deserves FAR more than he’s gotten thus far. Fuck him!
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The liquidation of Jones’ assets does not mean that Infowars will cease to exist. Several outcomes are possible. The court-appointed trustee could sell the business to another owner, for instance.
Don’t celebrate too soon. Some shadowy investors are going to bail him out.
The families are not super money motivated. They could just accept the company in the same way OJ Simpson lost his book rights.
Accept the company as payment and put up a youtube video of the set getting burned in the parking lot. After all infowars become a wikipage debunking every single lie told on the program.
But the brands value is in the personality. Killing info wars only creates an opportunity for him to create Schminfo Schwarz with little hiccup. Buying sets and whatnot with business partners is trivial. People make podcasts in their closets at home.
That is always going to happen but losing the infowars brand is really bad and the cost of reestablishing a recognizable brand from basically scratch is very expensive and difficult. I would argue that losing the brand is worse for him than any other asset he has.
The brand means nothing. It literally just means Alex Jones to everyone. If Alex Jones isnt on info wars then infowars dies. Wherever Jones goes he’ll do the same thing and have the same audience.
People keep saying that but every time a chud gets deplatformed their numbers gets decimated. A lot follows you but not everyone and growth takes a massive hit because all the boomers finding the show on Facebook will try to go to infowars because that’s where the 2 year old video is telling you to go.
Video backlog is fucked, SEO is fucked. They can go ahead and search for Alex Jones but you only get results of him getting fucked but not where to go because the new website doesn’t have good standing yet with Google because nobody is linking to your new page.
He hasn’t been deplatformed. He lost a brand name that is synonymous with himself. He can add a 2 to his web addresses and be right back where he is in a few days. Frankly all this attention he’s getting from the media will probably just help him accomplish that. His listeners are total morons, but they are also addicted to his bullshit. Addicts find their shit, Even the dumb ones.
Losing your brand and website is being deplattfomed. People act like it’s a binary thing where deplattforming either needs to wipe you off the face of the earth or it was pointless. The disruption will cost him viewers because while he sets up a new base his viewers will get bored and go to watch other things.
Not everyone will get bored, but enough people will move on for it to be a real concern for Alex Jones.
Ask any creator on the internet how bad a disruption in viewership is.
The brand means nothing. It literally just means Alex Jones to everyone. If Alex Jones isnt on info wars then infowars dies
Yep. Pop-quiz for anyone (not you, Knowledge Fight wonks!):
Can you name literally any other host who has a show on InfoWars, without looking up their names?
I’m a knowledge fight wonk but if I wasn’t I’d say “that guy that failed to marry Christina Ricci”
The most devastating insult they could accomplish, if they’re simply handed his assets relatively untouched, is to turn it into a reputable, top-tier news organization. Now that would be delightfully karmic.
He’s been telling his listeners not to buy from his store, but to buy directly from his dad’s website (who is a sponsor on his show and sells their “health” products though the show).
For those who don’t get it: If they buy from the Infowars store, those assets can be seized. If they buy from his dad, the assets are protected because his dad wasn’t the one who got sued. It’s a very blatant asset-hiding scheme.
Imagine if the owner of a big brand were going bankrupt and had to sell off all of their assets, (including the holdings for the store.) So instead, they start telling people to buy from their dad’s store, which is virtually identical in every way and the only difference is that the money ends up in your dad’s account instead of yours. It’s intentionally poisoning the asset seizure, by refusing to continue operating as a shop prior to your bankruptcy.
RICO charges for Jones?
I think it’s more likely that someone else buys it for the audience it already has, not for Alex, and uses that for good or ill. It could end up as more of the same, or it could get much better or worse.
Worst case the new owner employ Jones afterwards
The sandy hook families do have a say in this process (they turned down a “let jones use his ad revenue to pay them back” plan)
Of course, there are many billionaires in the US who would spend what for them is nothing but small change to bail Jones out and setup a new operation for him. Musk, the Kochs, the Mercers, the list goes on.
They should turn infowars into a conspiracy debunking site.
Ok or I could multiply my eggs before they hatch by hoping Soros or some other right wing boogie man buys it haha
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He should be in jail, although this is probably cheaper.
He should be in a pillory, carted around to major cities all over the US so everyone can get a chance to huck tomatoes at him.
Would be enough to just show him off like in a zoo. So people do not forget him.
Hassan is a similar hack and fraudster. Playing to base impulses and shallow thinking.
I really doubt that. No way he is going to be on like food stamps. Oh sure I would like that to happen. I would like him experience the suffering he inflicted on people who had their children fucking murdered. I would love to send a chilling message to all would be copycats but well…he is rich
Wouldn’t he be able to settle the debt through bankruptcy?
Pretty much only student loans can put you into perpetual debt in the US.
I thought he already declared bankruptcy …
Yeah, apparently if you caused the damages on purpose, the court can reject discharging the debt: https://www.bankruptcypower.com/blog/understanding-the-willful-and-malicious-injury-exception-to-debt-discharge/
I have no experience with bankruptcy but I always thought you were pretty much clear after something like chapter 7, unless it was debt to the government.
So did i, guess we were wrong
There are quite a few non-dischargeable debts. When it comes to legal judgments, if the damaged party objects to dismissal of the debt, it can remain, particularly if liens are involved. Liens can’t usually be discharged. That may be why Jones is seeking to liquidate. He can then start fresh using an company that he doesn’t own (but does control) to shield new assets. For instance, the company can provide him vehicles, a home, and an expense account. The company owns the real property, and the expense account is not considered personal income as long as it’s for “business expenses”. That limits the amount of his personal income subject to garnishment. I only hope that there’s a bidding war on Infowars so that his new company can’t afford it - and so the victims get max restitution.
I hope they follow him everywhere in public and tell everyone listening what he did.
Well, this past weekend, he talked as if it was his last show, that they were “gonna put the padlocks on the building and close us down” and that he knew they were going to do that because his powers told him so, powers from God. They even did a greatest hits with guests like Roger stone, Steve bannon, and Nick Fuentes and best of all, Flat Earth Dave (not really best of all but it was a hell of a segment). They also had actual clips of past times Alex has been, well, Alex. He also pretty clearly got drunk during the show. But this isn’t the end for him. He’ll just go work for his dad doing the exact same thing. As Alex has frequently said, his dad is basically his only sponsor now. So whatever happens to infowars, this isn’t the end of Alex Jones. Even if it should be.
As I understand it, civil judgements are not dischargeable in bankruptcy. Even if Alex sells everything he owns, that won’t be enough to pay off his share of the judgement and so any income he makes post-Infowars will be subject to garnishment.
So yeah. He’ll continue making the right-wing circles, and he’ll be hawking his dad’s boner pills, but at least the Sandy Hook families will start getting what he owes them.
Unfortunately there are still a million ways for him to live in luxury and not have any “official” income.
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That’s of course what he’ll do, and unfortunately I think there is little that can be done legally.
Yes, but the families can keep going after him for failing to pay.
Which is probably his goal, since his entire legal strategy so far has been to delay: hope the families and/or their lawyers stop going after him due to the massive amount of time and money it would cost to keep taking him to court.
You’re missing the point - they can only go after his money or his company’s money. He has people around him who he could work as a minimum wage employee for (on paper), while living on “their” money.
A fellow wonk, I see. “They burn to the fucking ground, Eddie”
The deep state got this man bad.
Gay frogs: 1
Alex: 0
I guess, but it’s the chemicals in the water that did this… not him
Remember folks, if it can happen to him, it can happen to you!
Don’t let the gay frogs win, buy your male enhancement supplements asap!
I can’t help but imagine a world ruled by gay frogs. The devastation of bug stocks, the rising water levels, the overpopulation. Glad we’re in charge.
Gay frogs gonna overpopulate?
The eventuality of ambient environmental frog semen will necessarily alter the froggy life cycle. All water will become saltwater. All frogs will become saltwater compliant.
Cool. Pollution control is a very good thing
My dear friend the great fact checker disinformation expert journalist Brooke Binkowski, former editor of Snopes helped take him down. I am proud to know her.
You made her title so convoluted I am now unsure if she is expert fact checker who combats disinformation or expert on spreading disinformation while pretending to be a fact checker. 🤔
She is just All The Things. But it’s the former.
Who is this and what did he do with the real Alex Jo - never mind, I don’t actually care what happened to Alex Jones
Infowars is too good of a propaganda outlet for Putin and other oligarchs to let slip away. Entertainment for idiots is also too good a grift.
Oh don’t worry, I’m absolutely certain it will return with a new host. Just because Jones isn’t allowed on it anymore doesn’t mean they have to throw out the entire propaganda outlet. Like you said, it’s too valuable, and him making money by liquidating/selling it means that someone, somewhere, is buying it.
So infowars is likely to be sold. To whom? I’m hoping comedy central picks it up and turns out into a recurring segment on the daily show
Or HBO. Last Infowars with John Oliver sounds awesome.
It’ll probably get picked up by the worst people, some Conservative Corp or rich asshole, or else it’ll be auctioned off for pennies on the dollar and being buried or turned into an anti-conservative landing site.
