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God I wish conservatives were as persecuted and marginalized as they claim they are
If you could read the room, you’d think they were.
And they rightly fucking deserve it.
If you house the fascists and bigots, you become a house of fascists and bigots. It doesn’t matter what the individual believes if they continue to give audience to those people. They become indistinguishable from them.
And when you’re just a normal straight person who gets the willies when gay people hit on you, fuck you right?
Normal straight dude here. I’ve been hit on by a gay guy before. I explained the situation like an adult. All was good, no willies of any kind were had.
No “hey let’s split rent and I’ll get you all these free drugs” before eventually they come out with their expectations? Congrats. You don’t wanna be there. You especially don’t wanna share a jail cell with a dude who got himself moved in because you helped him with a phone call once and eventually he scratches the hell out of your glasses while you’re in the shower because you turned him down.
Sorry for the run on sentences. I’m typing in the bathroom at work.
You bartered for drugs and were then surprised that this individual wasn’t completely honest?
If he was a woman you’d be all over yourself for victim blaming at this point, let’s try to be consistent.
I didn’t barter. They were pretty well framed as gifts.
This is so extremely specific dude. You okay? Genuinely man I’ve been in shitty drug situations and if it would help I’m happy to chat here or elsewhere.
I’m much better now, but I see a big crowd here invalidating others experiences because they think it’s the right thing. I can’t be silent about it.
That is really specific. You okay, buddy?
Yeah, but I’ve written off all personal relationships/sex and I make that very clear to everyone I have any involvement with. I won’t give creeps a leg to stand on.
You should talk to a woman sometime. They’ve dealt with getting the willies from “normal straight men” hitting on them since time immemorial.
It’s not so bad when it’s just hitting on me, but it’s been so so much worse than that.
Ho-leee fuck bud, you have lost the plot
Whatever that means.
First of all, I’m gonna call bullshit on people hitting on you. Hateful attitudes aren’t attractive.
Second of all, if a gay person hits on me, I’d be surprised and flattered, and politely turn them down.
Third (and more comedically), as a straight man, I would try NOT to get the willies, because I am not attracted to willies.
You presume everything and attach the things you presume. I bet you could talk with a wall all day.
Not sure what I presumed. I called your statement bullshit, but also justified my point of view. Meanwhile, you presumed that being creeped out by someone thinking you’re attractive is normal.
Something tells me the wall would be a more productive conversation than you.
You know how there’s some women who won’t have anything to do with men because they’ve had a traumatic experience? Well that shit happens to men too, and going after them like they’re evil filth is no fucking good for anyone. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. I won’t have shit to do with Gary people because the fact of the matter is that 80% of them I’ve known haven’t approached me to “just hit on me”. They’ve tried embedding themselves in my life first so that rejection comes with repercussions financially or socially. I won’t let them near me anymore and people like you wanna go around thinking gayness makes people saints.
That’s not normal.
Normal straight dude here. I can’t tell you how crazy often I have gay dudes creeping their way into my life just to eventually say they’re trying to get in my pants.
Oh no you know what it feels like yo be a woman for 5 minutes, the horror
5 minutes? Try my whole goddamn life, and if it’s too bad for you it’s too bad for me. Otherwise go fuck yourself and your crocodile sentiment. The problem isn’t men. The problem is creeps.
I have a theory that the reason you “can’t tell” how often it happens is because it isn’t happening at all. It’s clear you’re just a troll looking for attention. I hope you are able to find some happiness in life so you can stop being so obsessed.
Ah yeah, classic “discredit people who’s experiences don’t align with your motivations”. Real big of you. You don’t know SHIT. Holy goddamn victim blaming.
What the fuck, be a grown up person and just say you’re not interested.
How fragile are you?!
You clearly didn’t read the story.
I’m a fellow straight person who has had a gay person hit on me. Here’s the thing: the problem wasn’t his gayness. The problem was his persistence. If he had hit on me respectfully, and backed off when I showed disinterest, everything would have been fine.
His persistence wasn’t due to his gayness. There are gay people who are not persistent.
A lot of straight people are persistent too, and it’s just as much of a problem in straight people as it is in gay people, it just doesn’t bother you specifically, because you’re straight.
lol this thread is apparently filled with Brad Pitts who get hit on, and are then relentlessly pursuit 😂 despite the rejection
And when you’re just a normal straight person who gets the willies when gay people hit on you, fuck you right?
Yes. Maybe you need to wear your adult undies and realize that icky feelings are ok, and doesn’t justify being a bigot or a fascist.
That would be bigotry, accept it. Everyone is bigoted in some way, stop crying because people treat you the way you act.
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Tolerating the intolerant is what you are asking for. It’s the same story with someone saying you should tolerate someone burning books. Them not tolerating peoples thoughts or beliefs and then being upset people call them terrible people for burning books.
That’s just stupidity
Tolerate people and then you deserve to be tolerated.
Gotta call this one inaccurate. The Bible says some shit about false gods and whatnot.
Gotta call this one inaccurate. The Bible tells YOU not to have false gods, it doesn’t say you should hate other religions. I’d argue that the parable of the good samaritan in Luke 10:25-37 actually argues the exact opposite: “Love your neighbor as yourself” no matter who that person is
Also “some shit”: Colossians 3:8 “But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.”
Why isn’t the “no matter who that person is” part in quotes? What if they’re a witch?
I’m not really gonna bother reading the Bible any more just to argue about all this. I don’t really care. There’s some real fuckshit in there.
It really seems like you have no idea about the topic at hand. So I don’t get why you argued in the first place tbh.
My dude, I made the state finals for Bible quizzing in Ohio.
I literally don’t believe you based on the knowledge you’ve displayed here I’m afraid.
I only quizzed for two years on Matthew and Luke, and it was literally 17 years ago.
You got dat skibidi ohio rizz, my dude.
Edit: that’s not a compliment
Gotta call this one inaccurate. The Bible says some shit about false gods and whatnot.
Jesus repealed several older provisions.
I didn’t vote for Jesus!
Jesus votes for you. You have his confidence vote.
K, where’s my paycheck and desk?
That’s old testament. What Jesus said overrode that.
Its a very common mistake since a lot of christian groups pull their hate from the old testament.
Specifically, Matthew 5:43-48
And, to be clear, worshipping another god remains a sin in basic Christianity, its just not an excuse to not love everyone.
That’s weird because earlier in the same chapter it contradicts exactly what you said that he’s not changing any of the old testament laws except for I think animal sacrifices he talks about specifically elsewhere:
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
The reason the Christian bible includes the old testament afaik is because when the new testament gospels were being written 70+ years after Jesus died they wanted to convert Jewish people so they wrote how Jesus fulfills prophecies made in the Hebrew bible.
I’ve always heard it explained that the “fulfillment of the law” doesn’t abolish them, it fulfills the obligation and renders it moot, paving the way for the new covenant with Jesus as the penultimate sacrifice.
Even if you could accept that interpretation of fulfillment that would mean the “heaven and the earth disappear” already happened, which I’m pretty sure isn’t the case.
Depends on what you mean. The world that existed at the time of Christ has certainly been replaced. It took till the mid 1800s to really get going, but when was the last time you saw someone travelling by horse?
Old testament doesn’t count? Why is it even there?
Christians pick and choose what parts of the old testament to teach.
When my kids had bibles forced on them the old testament wasn’t included at all.
The way it’s been explained to me in the past is that a lot of the old testament is very strict rules for surviving in the desert 2000+ years ago.
You’ll find only the really hateful sects of Christianity lean heavily on it.
Where are the ten commandmends listed again?
Both. But it’s not a nice clean list in the new testament.
There’s 100s of commandments in the new testament.
Ohh I remember the little orange ones with the old testament missing!
Oh, I do understand them. They are mightly disturbed people, usually brainwashed by a extremist religious upbringing. They need help, but they don’t know it, and they live in an environment that usually does not see the need for this individual to get help in the first place.
You know what has it in them to accept a whole lot of a homophobes?
The ocean.
Maybe oceangate wasn’t a bad idea after all.
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