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    7 months ago

    We’re undoubtedly in the midst of another mass extinction, caused by human activity. Here’s another one that will freak you out:

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        You can see where they decided “Profit, with no consideration of anything else!” was the answer

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          I’m going to guess it wasn’t a decision, so much as tech availability and pricing. radar, sonar, more powerful boats with bigger trawl nets.

          If they’d had that stuff earlier it’d be the same tragedy of the same commons.

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            Fair.

            If we could’ve fucked things over a decade ago, we definitely would’ve!

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            Somewhere there was an asshole who made a decision, one of our failures as a (global, makes it harder) society is failing to hold responsibility accountable. Do the crime, do the time.

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        This is kind of misleading since they closed the fishery (I think in the 90s), so the amount of cod catch would naturally plummet. The fishery did, however, need to be closed due to overfishing.

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          Not exactly; it collapsed, then they closed it once it was too late, and now it’s still fucked, 30 years later.

          In the early-1990s, the industry collapsed entirely.

          In 1992, John Crosbie, the Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, set the quota for cod at 187,969 tonnes, even though only 129,033 tonnes had been caught the previous year.

          In 1992 the government announced a moratorium on cod fishing.[12] The moratorium was at first meant to last two years, hoping that the northern cod population would recover and the fishery. However, catches were still low,[16] and thus the cod fishery remained closed.

          By 1993 six cod populations had collapsed, forcing a belated moratorium on fishing.[14] Spawning biomass had decreased by at least 75% in all stocks, by 90% in three of the six stocks, and by 99% in the case of “northern” cod, previously the largest cod fishery in the world.[14] The previous increases in catches were wrongly thought to be due to “the stock growing” but were caused by new technologies such as trawlers.[13]

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            That’s a fair point. It still is a misleading plot since it isn’t an estimate cod population, and isn’t representative of population after 1992. As you said the numbers are still bleak. I found this plot , Source , which does tell a similar story around the early 90s but indicates greater recovery in more recent years.

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      There’s something wrong with this data.

      The fraction of asses should be way higher.

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      Why is that supposed to freak me out? We cultivate animals for consumption and there’s not a 1:1 absorption/usage ratio. Now add insect biomass.

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      This makes no sense… It says pets aren’t included.

      There are 500-700 million dogs worldwide. There are only just under 59 million horses.

      I don’t believe any of this as a result.

      Edit: and 35 million camels …and only a billion cattle. This entire thing is demonstrably bullshit.

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        700 million dogs x 17 kg per dog = 12 Mt of dog

        59 million horses x 700 kg per horse = 41 Mt of horse

        If horses are 2%, then dogs are 0.5%, less than 1% just like they said

        35 million camels x 500 kg per camel = 17 Mt of camel, a little less than 1%

        I think the key thing is they’re measuring biomass, not just the number of animals, otherwise it would all be stuff like mice and rats (not to say that wouldn’t be a valid thing to look at also)

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        BioMASS is not about the number of animals but about their mass. Sure there’s a lot of dogs and cats but they don’t weigh as much as a camel.

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        It doesn’t help that we chose the meatiest animals to keep as livestock and then made sure they got even fatter than they started by any means necessary. One factory farmed cow probably weighs like 12 wild deer and a few wild rabbits for good measure.

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            How isn’t it relevant? Large animals like whales make up a disproportionate amount of ‘wild animal’ biomass. But rats, mice etc will make up a sizeable proportion too while being human centric pests in much of the world.

            4% is actually worse than it looks.

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    Oh, my. I hadn’t even noticed how much less I’ve had to clean my Windshield lately. That is a very bad sign…

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          In Sacramento I clean mine almost daily. Just depends where you are really. Lots of farm land will always have lots of bugs.

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            Let me give another example:

            Traveling from Central Europe to Southern Europe to spend your holiday. In 1980/1990 you had to clean your windshield a couple of times when driving there.

            Not any more.

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            Unless they use shit-tons of insecticide. The farms around my home-town did, or started too a bit before I left.

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        Waaiiittt… How fast you need to go to get flies on your windows? I think my place has much more flies but i never saw this thing

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      Couldn’t that also be new improvements in car aerodynamics where bugs simply glide off instead of getting squished?

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      I was thinking the other day that we no longer see bugs around the house I grew up in. When I was a kid my house was always full of bugs, we live next to a protected natural area, so it was impossible to keep them out. Anyways, I’ve always loved bugs so they were welcome. I moved out and whenever I go there are no animals to be seen. I can’t even hear birds or see iguanas walking around. It’s so disturbing.

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    I’m 51, I spent the 90’s in Louisiana, and since my wife doesn’t fly, we have driven across the USA more times than we can count. In the 90’s, if you didn’t have a bug screen on your grill, the LoveBugs would clog your radiator and you would over heat. You also needed the windshield scrib and squeegee to scrub off the bug splatter every time you filled up. Now, you don’t need either of them.

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    This has bothered me for years. It’s a really strange thing to be telling younger relatives about how you legitimately could not drive any substantial distance without windshield cleaner at certain times of year. I remember them being plastered across the front edge of the hood and against the radiator after a long trip.

    It’s one of the most visibly different things about the world today, IMO, and it’s a little eerie.

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      The sounds, too.

      I was talking with my dad walking near to a place that had frogs croaking, and he got a little emotional and excited to hear them over the phone. Normally it’s just traffic noises now, and silence.

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      I remember the wasps always buzzing around the vehicle grills munching on all the dead bugs too. Now it’s just shiny and chrome.

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      I still remember 10 years ago when I was driving on the Autobahn at 130 km/h and a juicy bug hit the windshield. It was literally a loud splat. Besides the grill always being covered in bugs.

      Hasn’t happened since, nowadays I can count the number of bugs on the grill with one hand. And that’s after months of driving.

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    When I was a kid, there used to be hundreds of fireflies in my backyard in the summer. Now, I get excited to see even two or three.

    I blame the anti-mosquito pesticide services half my neighbors seem to hire.

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      Where I grew up, the city wanted to hire a bunch of trucks to drive around spraying malathion into the air. They had a vote, and the town voted overwhelmingly that, fuck no they did not want that, please don’t do that, that sounds awful. Then they did it anyway.

      Same thing; now there are pretty much 0 fireflies.

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      Blame the raking of the leaves. No leaves in fall means no place for the eggs to be laid and no place for the larvae to grow. It’s another casualty to grass lawns. A “clean” nature is a place where nothing has room to thrive.

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        I try to help what little I can there by not raking (or if I do, I collect and move into our fenced in section so insects can still make use of them). It does also help my laziness that I have a legitimate reason to not rake.
        Not sure if it helps or not since I do mow the leaves with the grass at the start of the summer.

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    Not quite correct. The 2020 image should have a car completely covered in a dust of green pollen because city planners only planted male trees for decades because female trees would produce fruit or seed and be a “nuisance” and/or create trash/animal bait etc…

    But if they only planted female trees, they would never get fertilized, so they wouldn’t produce fruit anyway… Or pollen.

    Worst case scenario, they would produce fruit, and cities would still smell bad and have rodent problems. But without the allergies.

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      Oh I remember 2 years ago where I live there was so much fucking pollen. And we had no rain for like 2 months so the streets were yellow with it. I am not allergic to pollen and yet I was constantly sneezing and my eyes were irritated. It was such a relief when we finally had some rain to clear everything.

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    I’m so dopey. I thought this was suggesting that we’d invented some clever formulation to stop dead bugs sticking to windshields in 2020 and that we’d all have fully autonomous cars by 2050.

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    Whoa, this is disconcerting. My folks used to run a rental car agency and I helped out every now and then by cleaning cars. I remember cleaning so many bugs off of cars 20ish years ago, and now on my own car - barely nothing. :(

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    Idk but I’m reminded of the 2002 adaptation of The Time Machine. One of the great achievements of our civilization was an advanced AI with all of our collective knowledge that you could converse with. Feels like our AI tech is on track to get there by the time we start dying off en mass lol

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      There are quite a few wonderful stories about the AIs continuing after humans are gone. “For a Breath I Tarry” by Roger Zelazny, and the whole of the Cyberiad by Stanislaw Lem, are some great ones.

      That being said one of the critical points of “For a Breath I Tarry” is that the machines are just doing what they’re programmed to do, maintaining the infrastructure for no one and just sitting in their orbits keeping the power grid going and all, and are actively hostile to any effort to bring the humans back because that would make things complicated and isn’t in their programming (since although superficially they can converse and act “intelligently,” more so than humans, they can’t really grasp the purpose of things.) Also, “With Folded Hands” by Jack Williamson is another perfectly realistic one.

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        Honestly, having a world that’s just alone and empty, but not “abandoned”, sounds so soothing to explore, so liminal

        Until insanity set in, but until then I’d have alot of fun just exploring the place for a while

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      Even if the AI can’t converse well, there will not be many humans around to have human conversations so it will seem a normal chat.

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    I’m [emotionally*] ready for the hyper-industrialized moon-scape our planet will become once our environment completely collapses. I think there will be a point past which any environmental protection measures will be useless because there’s nothing left to protect so industrial landscapes will become the norm.

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      industrial landscapes need a base of natural resources and less developed regions with high birth rates (as a source of labor) to support them.

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    My parents never gave me money unless I worked for it and washing their cars was one of those few things they did pay me to do. I remember always having to scrub bugs off the front, it was the hardest part. I’ve literally never washed my road cars because its just dust.

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      My parents never gave me money unless I worked for it

      my road cars because its just dust.

      I’m sorry. I legitimately can’t tell if this is satire or not…

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        What are you confused about? Some cars I’ve owned cannot go off road, maybe a bumpy dirt road here and there. Other cars I have owned I bought specifically because I needed them to go where there isn’t pavement or even a road. They get a lot dirtier and need cleaning just to stay functional.

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    Stop cutting your lawns and dig a pond. It’s not going to stop industrial scale destruction, but it’s something actionable that you can do yourself and see the positive impact right at home. If enough homes do it, a network of gardens can become a macro system.

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      Idk my artificial monoculture of non-native grasses kept immaculately trimmed and racially pure with toxic chemicals applied regularly makes me feel better than my neighbors’ artificial monoculture of non-native grasses kept immaculately trimmed and racially pure with toxic chemicals applied regularly.

      That is how my daddy did it and that is how his daddy did it and their generations haven’t set any cultural precedents that have been incredibly predictably devastating to life and the biosphere as far as I can tell in these recordbreakingly hot and insect free times. I mean sure, those other places are experiencing historic climate events, but that is just part of normal climate cycles that haven’t existed in millennia.

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    It’s a very funny commentary on how we’re all about to die!

    Why didn’t the scientists warn us that pollution was bad? Where were the scientists lighting themselves on fire in protest?

    This is all science’s fault!

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    Bro would probably be more than 70 years old in 2050, good that he’s off the streets