• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    I understand they want closure and to prevent this from happening again, but suing a video game publisher bcz of depictions of guns is a bit of a reach.

    There’s research to back this up, video games do not cause violence.

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      They just want closure and for something to blame without actually tackling the real problem, gun control, which will never happen because ‘murica. They’d never get anywhere if they tried.

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        They voted all the leadership positions for the Uvalde police back in, so voters collectively approved of their actions.

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      The research is not nearly comprehensive enough to say that a massively popular game franchise does not have a social and political effect on how people view firearms. That’s a massive leap from “gamer kids don’t get into fights at recess more than non-gamers.”

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        I agree purely on a “cultural influence” level, as while I doubt CoD caused a school shooting, it seems the argument these grieving families are making is “CoD glorifies guns and gun culture, therefore this will send a message that gun culture is not acceptable and guns being admired is dangerous.” On that I feel that if they have to destroy an over monetized and creatively bankrupt game franchise to send a message that guns are not toys or fashion accessories, CoD’s continuation will not be missed by the majority of gamers.

        My only concern is that if they do succeed, that means anything can be censored in the US if it promotes cult-like behavior, which is too subjective to be properly defined without giving politicians another way to FUD people and thus does not solve the problem.

        That, and fuck those cops who caused the majority of the issue. At that point, grab kitchen knives, conceal them, go to a local police station, calmly say you want to report a crime, and when the cop comes out to ask, slit his throat and say “this is for the kids you killed”. I would not trust an American cop ever at this point, so if anyone from my own or any other country reads this, I’m not going to kill a cop because the RCMP are actually trustworthy and have ensured everyone’s safety. I’m not intending to incite actual violence, only stating that these families are targeting the wrong people and they’re probably doing it because they were told justice will never come because the fucking police wanted it that way.

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    Uvalde was a tragedy but this has absolutely no merit

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    Sorry, wrong target. Sue the cops who didn’t act. Oh, wait. They’re basically untouchable. Well, I guess sue yourselves for having children in America. That’s about the only case you might win.

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    I find it sad that some lawyer sold them on this suit, while also settling with the police department for peanuts.

    The police caused all of the extra pain here, and no studies have ever shown a link to violence from video games.

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      I have no doubt that Adam Lanza’s obsession with Dance Dance Revolution compelled him to commit the Sandy Hook massacre.

      That’s how they get you. Before it was Catcher In The Rye, then it was Helter Skelter. Next it’ll be Kirby’s Return to Dream Land Deluxe!

      It’s the tessellation of the splines, I tell you! THE TESSELLATION OF THE SPLINES

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    The fact that CoD doesn’t even use real guns/manufacturers anymore makes me think this suit has zero chance. Video games do not cause violence, certainly not more than any other media!

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      Yeah, without evidence that Activision/CoD were intentionally in cahoots with arms manufacturers, this is pretty flimsy.

      I do think the case against Daniel Defense is stronger, though. I can see a legitimate argument being made that guns should not be advertised directly at teenagers and young men, and that firearms shouldn’t be advertised on social media in general.

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    Maybe they should switch gears and try suing them for motivating basement dwelling armchair Action heroes so they became Uvalde Cops. No wonder they thought they could handle a shooter until shit got real.

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    「Points to US Army.」

    COD has had creepy right wing ideology sewn into it at least as far back as Ghosts (which also featured – I hear – amazing dog levels) but yes, even recent one had messages more about _are you willing to make the tough choices [and commit atrocities] in the name of national security. That’s pretty right-wing.

    But that doesnt qualify as incitement to action (at least not in US law) because it isn’t specific (e.g. Justice Thomas must be killed before he does any further damage to our civil rights )

    Freedom of speech allows us to paint groups as bad guys in art, and it’s up to our critics and curators to highlight these and other problematic features.

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    it’s interesting how they got to this target as conclusion.

    for places that don’t ban guns, every walmart would have them with minimal barriers for buying.

    like what steam does for games, maybe it’s because these guns are that easy to acquire to begin with?