I guess I’m not surprised that programmers don’t know how to follow meme standards.
The three panels following the first one are supposed to be helping the first one.
I am altering the meme. Pray I do not alter it any further.
Senior developer here, it looks like they are helping to me.
Sending you on a side quest isnt really helping efficiently
But it is helping effectively.
It’s less efficient to learn how to do something than to have somebody who knows how do it for you, but it’s more effective to learn for yourself. Hard won knowledge is rarely lost.
Ha, tell that to my brain trying to recall what i learned in undergrad
!:'(!<
Heads up, that spoiler syntax doesn’t work on normal lemmy
Time management is different for everyone, and when you’re on a deadline, or just dealing with a one-off situation, the extra research has no value.
Sometimes you don’t need to know how the clock works, you just need to know what time it is.
I totally agree. There are exceptions to every rule, but random people on the internet who you aren’t being paid to solve the problem for by a very large majority would benefit more from education than having their problem solved for them.
Teach a man to fish and all that.
Yeah but it’s funny in a different way; they are giving ignorant and condescending advice because while big cats have impressive hunting abilities, they don’t normally hunt mice.
The person you’re responding to is giving advice in an ignorant and condescending way as a joke
Someone else already did. Marked as duplicate.
Part of language (which memes are a part of) is changing it to express new ideas and new forms of humor.
Is anyone going to tell them about stack overflow, or…
how dare people alter the meaning of a meme? there are meme standards for a reason!! /s
We live in a society. We have laws. And order.
Polymorphic meme
This is a pretty old meme now. It’s a bit late for that.
“Insufficient detail. Please ask a specific question.”
“Read the wiki”
“Nobody here is interested in holding your hand.”
“Insufficient detail. Please ask a specific question.”
This is a very real problem from the answering side. So many people would rather have you guess what they’re trying to ask and then get mad at you when you guess wrong.
I know whenever I try to help someone with a Linux issue it’s always an uphill battle to get them to stop guessing what they think the problem might be and show me the logs.
People really don’t want to give you the information you need to help them.
To be fair, people who know which logs to attach and how to get them usually already know enough to troubleshoot the issue by themselves.
This is such a hard part of learning Linux. “Just look at the logs” Which logs? Where? How?
journalctl > logs.txt(don’t actually do this)(what does this do?)
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You’d think so, but the logs often contain a ton of noise along with the one line that tells me what the actual issue is.
I make sure to give my guess and also append as many logs and exact information as possible, right down to every step I took that produced the problem.
So far my success rate with the forums is 0%. But hey, people at least tried to be helpful!
It’s not a real problem on Stack Overflow. Because Stack Overflow isn’t just a forum, it’s supposed to be a repository for reference. Let’s examine a hypothetical:
Newbie programmer Tim submits a question on Stack Overflow. “How do I deserialise a JSON in C?” An answerer replies “that doesn’t make any sense. What are you actually trying to do?” Tim explains that he’s trying to make two parts of his program communicate, and he heard some out of context advice that a JSON is a good way to do it. The answerer helps Tim out by explaining a better solution to the problem.
A year later, professional programmer Mark googles “how to deserialise a JSON in C”. Mark’s client wants to pass JSON data from a web application into a C program they bought, and they don’t care whether it’s good practice. Mark understands this situation isn’t good practice, and he suggested a better tool, but the client doesn’t care because they spent a lot of money on this licence and using a different tool would make them look like fools. Mark isn’t happy, but he’s going to try his best.
Mark finds the stack overflow thread created by Tim, and it’s completely useless. Nobody actually answered the question that Tim asked. Tim is happy because Tim’s individual problem was solved. But Stack Overflow isn’t any help to Mark, or the hundred people like him who were also put in an unreasonable situation by their bosses and clients. By helping Tim, the answerer frustrated everyone else.
Yep. I do triage on potentially bad questions and this is probably the most common response I give.
Stop, stop. It hurts, it’s too real.
man mouse
“Relying on humans” is open to interpretation.
For food. You know… nom nom (the humans as food I am hinting at!:-P).
I once submitted an issue to a devs GitHub. The apps login page would not load without large bg pictures loading first. I asked if he could add an option to disable it in the settings, as my self hosted site was slow.
I essentially got back, “why would I do that? It’s not an issue for me! Besides the login page should load before the background picture” issue closed
😑😑😑😑
It’s like you’re SO CLOSE to seeing the issue.
This image macro is supposed to be supportive
So was stackoverflow when it began
Can confirm, the support forum crowd are dicks
I’d rather rather run my nuts through a wringer than deal with that shit.
Hey u/wringer4u
Heyy…
It’s an X Y problem. Please retell the history, starting from your birth, that led to this moment before I contemplate answering your question
Signed, somebody who would rather waste your time than answer the bloody question.
My for-profit large language model will not be stopped by your “anti commercial ai license” because it hasn’t learned to read yet.
Ive seen people link that one multiple times and i am at a loss what its about.
The cc 4.0 license it points to does not mention AI at all.
CC even has a page where they state that it probably is legal to train on cc protected content but it depends on context.
https://creativecommons.org/2023/08/18/understanding-cc-licenses-and-generative-ai/
I think someone used ai to mean attribution/alike, international. Which are part of the full name (Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International) but still make little sense as an acronym next to CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 being the official acronym.
There’s no point looking for logic. These people truly believe granting a licence restricts the rights of people who don’t agree to the licence, which is the exact opposite of what licenses do. It’s blatant misinformation but if you call them out on it (even by quoting their own link) they literally think you’re an astroturfer for AI, because that makes more sense to them than the fact they’re obviously wrong.
You don’t understand: these comment footers are the only thing between us and Roko’s basilisk.
~ NOT FOR COMMERCIAL USE ~ PRIVATE MODE OF COMMUNICATION ~ NO STEP ON SNEK ~
It’s one of those situations where corporations get to pull similar bullshit, so they think actual humans get to use the same tricks, too.
i am at a loss what its about.
The only thing worse than the tech-bro’s worshiping AI like it’s the next messiah and we all must pave way for this revolutionary technology that will only seem to benefit white Americans with disposable income, are the people on the opposite end of the spectrum who are have a hysterical hatred for LLM’s because their favorite Youtube streamers are getting clicks by ranting about how bad AI is. They are not being personally impacted by AI at all but are delusional enough to think that there will be laws and regulations and that AI will be “banned” if we all “raise awareness” and it’s about as useful as the Bud Lite protests but not even remotely as entertaining.
HELLO MY DEAR FACEBOOK FRIENDS! I RECENTLY LEARNED THAT FACEBOOK RECENTLY CHANGED THEIR TERMS AND AGREEMENTS RECENTLY. NOW YOU MUST COPY AND PASTE THIS TEXT TO THE END OF ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS OR JARK SUCKERBURG WILL EAT YOUR BALLS.
THE TEXT IS THIS:
I DO NOT WANT JARK SUCKERBURG TO EAT MY BALLS.
MAKE SURE YOU DO THIS OR JARK WILL EAT YOUR BALLS!!! 1
I DO NOT WANT JARK SUCKERBURG TO EAT MY BALLS.
I just sign my name “NO AI PLZ” on every interaction I do online, that will assure I retain a narrative of control in my limited human mind.
Sincerenly,
NO AI PLZ
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Reason: Spam/misinformation: Not an anti-AI licence.This person may be confused, but still your tagline is a waste of mods’ time. And just speaking as a user I find it to be annoying visual pollution, especially since I think it’s ineffectual, unless your only goal is to “raise awareness.” Beyond that I think any effectiveness is about as plausible as that of sovereign citizenship.
“Catching mice is a stupid question.”
Well this makes me feel better about my stupid questions on stack overflow.
Look at this fancy person with enough reputation to ask a question
I know you’re trying to make a joke about SO’s restrictive rep system, but asking and answering questions doesn’t require reputation, at all. If anything, that’s where you start building rep.
Didn’t know that. Never felt the need to ask questions since almost all of my queries are asked in some form or another. However many times I had info to share complementing the answers but couldn’t comment.
Yep, commenting requires some rep in most communities, 15 on SO I think
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is that tiger using a freebsd laptop
Would buy immediately if they had wifi 5/6
It was a fun project to set up a FreeBSD laptop until I stumbled upon the WiFi issue, but I didn’t notice any advantage over just using Debian.
Hot muscular felines as coworkers? Sign me the f up
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