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    I guess I’m not surprised that programmers don’t know how to follow meme standards.

    The three panels following the first one are supposed to be helping the first one.

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    “Insufficient detail. Please ask a specific question.”

    “Read the wiki”

    “Nobody here is interested in holding your hand.”

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      “Insufficient detail. Please ask a specific question.”

      This is a very real problem from the answering side. So many people would rather have you guess what they’re trying to ask and then get mad at you when you guess wrong.

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        I know whenever I try to help someone with a Linux issue it’s always an uphill battle to get them to stop guessing what they think the problem might be and show me the logs.

        People really don’t want to give you the information you need to help them.

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        It’s not a real problem on Stack Overflow. Because Stack Overflow isn’t just a forum, it’s supposed to be a repository for reference. Let’s examine a hypothetical:

        Newbie programmer Tim submits a question on Stack Overflow. “How do I deserialise a JSON in C?” An answerer replies “that doesn’t make any sense. What are you actually trying to do?” Tim explains that he’s trying to make two parts of his program communicate, and he heard some out of context advice that a JSON is a good way to do it. The answerer helps Tim out by explaining a better solution to the problem.

        A year later, professional programmer Mark googles “how to deserialise a JSON in C”. Mark’s client wants to pass JSON data from a web application into a C program they bought, and they don’t care whether it’s good practice. Mark understands this situation isn’t good practice, and he suggested a better tool, but the client doesn’t care because they spent a lot of money on this licence and using a different tool would make them look like fools. Mark isn’t happy, but he’s going to try his best.

        Mark finds the stack overflow thread created by Tim, and it’s completely useless. Nobody actually answered the question that Tim asked. Tim is happy because Tim’s individual problem was solved. But Stack Overflow isn’t any help to Mark, or the hundred people like him who were also put in an unreasonable situation by their bosses and clients. By helping Tim, the answerer frustrated everyone else.

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        Yep. I do triage on potentially bad questions and this is probably the most common response I give.

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    I once submitted an issue to a devs GitHub. The apps login page would not load without large bg pictures loading first. I asked if he could add an option to disable it in the settings, as my self hosted site was slow.

    I essentially got back, “why would I do that? It’s not an issue for me! Besides the login page should load before the background picture” issue closed

    😑😑😑😑

    It’s like you’re SO CLOSE to seeing the issue.

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      Similar thing here. I once went to a Minecraft mod dev’s discord to ask if there was a way to center the health bars that come with his mod. He basically said “you’re the only person who has ever asked for this, everyone else just puts it in a corner of their screen”. I feel centering is a basic feature of any adjustable UI element!

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        I kinda get it, mod authors (and FOSS devs) often get a lot of requests for something they’re doing in their free time without pay. If they already have a backlog, they have to be picky about what tasks they take on, and they can get a bit snippy when overwhelmed with requests (or questions that might turn into one). That being said, there’s no reason to be rude.

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          He wasn’t actually too rude about it luckily, but what I found funny is that his mod was a very basic one with a lot of competitors doing pretty much the exact same thing, and ALL of them had centering options. Maybe he just didn’t see those mods? Idk.

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    This image macro is supposed to be supportive

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    It’s an X Y problem. Please retell the history, starting from your birth, that led to this moment before I contemplate answering your question

    Signed, somebody who would rather waste your time than answer the bloody question.

    Anti Commercial-AI license

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      My for-profit large language model will not be stopped by your “anti commercial ai license” because it hasn’t learned to read yet.

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        Ive seen people link that one multiple times and i am at a loss what its about.

        The cc 4.0 license it points to does not mention AI at all.

        CC even has a page where they state that it probably is legal to train on cc protected content but it depends on context.

        https://creativecommons.org/2023/08/18/understanding-cc-licenses-and-generative-ai/

        I think someone used ai to mean attribution/alike, international. Which are part of the full name (Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International) but still make little sense as an acronym next to CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 being the official acronym.

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          There’s no point looking for logic. These people truly believe granting a licence restricts the rights of people who don’t agree to the licence, which is the exact opposite of what licenses do. It’s blatant misinformation but if you call them out on it (even by quoting their own link) they literally think you’re an astroturfer for AI, because that makes more sense to them than the fact they’re obviously wrong.

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            It’s one of those situations where corporations get to pull similar bullshit, so they think actual humans get to use the same tricks, too.

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          i am at a loss what its about.

          The only thing worse than the tech-bro’s worshiping AI like it’s the next messiah and we all must pave way for this revolutionary technology that will only seem to benefit white Americans with disposable income, are the people on the opposite end of the spectrum who are have a hysterical hatred for LLM’s because their favorite Youtube streamers are getting clicks by ranting about how bad AI is. They are not being personally impacted by AI at all but are delusional enough to think that there will be laws and regulations and that AI will be “banned” if we all “raise awareness” and it’s about as useful as the Bud Lite protests but not even remotely as entertaining.

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          I just sign my name “NO AI PLZ” on every interaction I do online, that will assure I retain a narrative of control in my limited human mind.

          Sincerenly,

          NO AI PLZ

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      Reporter: [REDACTED]
      Reason: Spam/misinformation: Not an anti-AI licence.

      This person may be confused, but still your tagline is a waste of mods’ time. And just speaking as a user I find it to be annoying visual pollution, especially since I think it’s ineffectual, unless your only goal is to “raise awareness.” Beyond that I think any effectiveness is about as plausible as that of sovereign citizenship.

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        I know you’re trying to make a joke about SO’s restrictive rep system, but asking and answering questions doesn’t require reputation, at all. If anything, that’s where you start building rep.

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          Didn’t know that. Never felt the need to ask questions since almost all of my queries are asked in some form or another. However many times I had info to share complementing the answers but couldn’t comment.