• eleitl@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    VPN tunnels don’t magically become transparent when packets pass UK fiber and routers. And legislation doesn’t translate well into which software people are allowed to run, for endpoints in UK. They can try to become North Korea of course, good luck with that.

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      I’m aware, but most software utilizing E2EE are maintained by corporations. If those companies want to operate in the UK, they will need to implement a back door, most companies utilize encrypted traffic to and from their server rather than E2E, and most people don’t know someone outside of the UK able to create a vpn tunnel that isn’t operated by a company. I’m willing to bet that the UK is also prepared to leverage lawsuits and warrants against individuals that write encryption algorithms without a back door, regardless of what country they live in. I’m willing to bet github and gitlab also don’t want to take the risk in hosting encryption algorithms that don’t comply.

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          I generally agree, Apple has threatened to remove some apps from the UK market over this, so it’s not like this will be accepted lying down. But the reality still exists that most things like VPN tunnels are operated by companies, so they can’t legally operate in the UK without the backdoor. Overall, this will primarily hurt UK citizens, but this law threatens to impact everyone on Earth

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        But are e2e from big corp REALY e2e? Like whatsapp? How many cases there were “Whatsapp Chats from the attacker showed that they were backed by terrorists” or so. Github… was github EVER encrypted? or Gitlab? They dont want big corporation rather “small” open source like the matrix chats or other sorts of real encrypted chats.

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          End To End Encryption (E2EE) is a very precise term meaning that something gets encrypted on your device and doesn’t (usually can’t) get decrypted by anything other than the destination. I don’t know what they call it, but if Whatsapp calls it E2E then it’s a misnomer. They encrypt to and from their central server, which is not E2EE.

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            Whatsapp had been ever back doored. In germany there are so many news “Whatsapp chats show terrorist was a bad guy”, “Facebook gave police chats of a suspect”…

            If you really think even if it is really E2EE, does a data greedy company not have that encryption key? Are you really that Mainstream Apple fan?

            Is there any reason to belive it IS encrypted?

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                Whatsapp is NOT widely known to be encrypted of a privacy killing company. I really doubt that still. I have heard of Signal that they give no f*cks about law enforcements. But never Whatsapp. And we cant trust if they are just backdooring it for them and only in the dark giving them to the fbi. Do you really think that meta “encrypts” anything REALLY.

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                    Wow just another troll who doesnt understand when to stop. Who is a corporate fanboy who trust in big corporation not to f… around and sell any data they have. As Meta or rather Facebook is very trustworthy not to sell your data ;). And again from someone from lemmy.ca