Fox News won’t bother mentioning this to their viewers.

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    You’re crying that it’s not legal yet. Let’s forget that he asked dea to look at rescheduling it and that he forgave federal possession convictions.

    You’re crying he only did what he could and forgave debt and hasn’t gotten around to a Herculean overhaul of the entire post secondary system.

    You didn’t see the follow-up with unions. I’d give the Beau of the fifth column video but they’re impossible to find.

    You’re crying not novel enough, WTF. And you’re forgetting the green energy generation in the IRA.

    You’re crying chips being only decent?

    That was the easy stuff off the top of my head, and it’s just crying that nothing is ever good enough. Crying that it’s not fast enough. Nevermind that you’re (likely) kneecapping him with no majority in the house.

    You’re exactly the character described in the top comments.

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      The federal possession forgiveness was a red herring. It only applies to people in federal prison who aren’t also in for “violent” offenses, which all the aggravated and intent charges count as.

      So it ended up applying to like five dudes.

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        That’s not what a red herring is.

        And yes federal because that’s what he has jurisdiction over. And yes violent offences are a big and completely different step up. It was intended to be possession and that what it was, not other things. You’re doing a weird deflection on what was a good call. And plenty of advisors probably pointed out that many times some decently bad incidents get argued down to possession for plea deal.

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          Almost no one is in federal prison for “just” possession. Almost no one serves time in federal prison for possession when their case is plead down. Part of an attractive plea deal is avoiding federal prison. Lots of weird shit counts as violent crime even though we wouldn’t think it was. Felony murder is a thing.

          A red herring, especially in a narrative, is some piece of information meant to be misleading.

          Biden pardoning of people with possession charges amounted to very few actual pardons, didn’t account for the Byzantine legal system and didn’t have any effect for precursor crimes. The intent was to get some publicity and seem like he’s doing something while actually not doing anything. Purposely misleading information. A red herring.

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            Yeah it’s not many people because most convictions are from the states, which he does not have jurisdiction over. Ok? Got it? The president can not do anything about state convictions or sentences. So he did what he could with federal charges, because federal charges is what he has jurisdiction over.

            Part of an attractive deal is pleading down more serious stuff down to simple possession.

            Red herring:

            Something that draws attention away from the matter being discussed or dealt with.

            It’s not a red herring. What you are trying to do is closer (still not quite) to a red herring because you are trying to draw attention away from what he could do and trying to minimize it with the repeated “not many”. The number doesn’t matter, he did what he had jurisdiction over, You are the one much closer to a red herring. Ciao.

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              Oh the pwesident doesn’t have any juwustiction owver the states… nothing he could do!

              If I was a politician with more than 50 years under my belt running on tough on crime platforms and spearheading racist laws that ramp up the convictions of millions of black Americans for minor drug offenses with the knock on effect of providing police the chance to go hunting for more evidence, detain and steal the property of those people, would you call it a red herring when I grant clemency to the absolute barest minimum possible?

              I obviously would, because I did, but language is mutable and it’s possible that there’s a better phrase when you’re responsible for the current juiced up run wild carceral slavery system holding millions and decide that a handful of people actually shouldn’t be in there but only the ones that you can very quietly grant clemency to without causing a stir and only the ones serving time on the most narrow range of charges which just happens to be nearly tangential to each other!

              If you want to keep arguing about language, the word tangent should be your next target, I just described what most people would visualize as two shapes as being tangent to each other but only unbounded shapes like planes or lines can be tangential! Quick, start looking up definitions!

              Biden created the laws and supported the growth of a system that put these people in prison for his entire career. He now occupies the highest seat of power in the nation and releases a tiny fraction of the people he’s responsible for the imprisonment of. If you won’t accept that it’s a red herring then I’m forced to call it bullshit.

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                Oh the pwesident doesn’t have any juwustiction owver the states… nothing he could do!

                Lol you turn to mocking the president about ??? the things he can and can’t do??? Yeah that about sums it up, you showed who you are. You have no idea how things work so sorry to say you’re acting like a child (with those spellings). Why am I even bothering, ciao.

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                  You said goodbye last time but you’re still here!

                  He’s just a smol bean sitting on the big chair! He literally can’t do anything more than the token gesture he made! No, don’t look at all the billions in federal funding and aid for state prisons! Don’t look at the huge standing army, don’t look at the billions in aid to foreign wars!

                  He can’t do anything else! It’s not possible!

                  Are you also scared of project 2025?

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      That was the DEA looking at it. It went from schedule 1 to schedule 3. Which is a year in prison and a fine for possession.

      I’m not against him doing harm reduction, but call it what it is. Don’t forgive debt and sell it as a reform. Winning the presidential lottery is not a reform.

      The follow up? Where railroad workers are still under manned and required to work sick? Oh I’m sorry we got some real reforms for the IT guys in railroading. But the guys on the tracks, who were getting abused before are still getting abused in the exact same ways.

      Green energy generation is solved. It’s already cheaper to build, maintain, and use than fossil fuels. Many states already routinely hit 100% renewable energy on their grid. So much so that the business crowd is trying to get home solar financial benefits reduced because the market is saturated.

      This isn’t “nothing is good enough” it’s stop doing merely performative shit and blowing smoke up my ass. I gave him credit for CHIPs, but the IRA was just a corporate grift wrapped in green paper.

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        Yes, that was the DEA being told by Biden to look at it. And you’re forgetting that he forgave federal possessions.

        You’re back to crying about “only” forgiving some debt. And you’re back to crying about not doing a Herculean task of completely overhauling post secondary in 2 years. Who’s selling it as reform? Nobody. You’re making shit up just to cry about now.

        The rail union got to negotiate. Whatever they got, they negotiate for themselves. You’re crying again that Biden didn’t do _______. It’s not even his place to negotiate or dictate what happens, but you’re crying about it.

        Green energy generation still needed (needs?) a boot in the ass, which is exactly what IRA did. But you can’t cry about this one, so no credit to Biden! Oh wait there’s the crying about IRA. Seriously?

        All you’re doing is crying about things not happening at warp speed. And then ignoring the things that do happen. You are exactly what the top comment are about.

        What this comes down to: If you don’t vote, then you can’t complain or cry. Do you vote? Good. But I’ll say that your crying is largely inaccurate. Do you not vote? Then it’s bizarre and pathetic that you are crying while you are the one that is actively kneecapping progress.

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          Again. Hoping the president pardons you is not fucking reform.

          And yeah we’ve known student debt was a problem for a decade. He knows he has four years in a term. Nobody wanting to reform things starts on January 20th. They start making plans years in advance or subscribe to think tank plans. Saying he’s only had his entire term is a bullshit excuse. That’s when shit gets done. He hasn’t got the job done. And that wouldn’t even be a big problem if he weren’t trying to tell people he did get the job done.

          The rail union didn’t get to negotiate.b that was the entire reason they were going on strike. Biden forced them to take the company’s offer. That’s what breaking the strike does. At this point you’re straight up lying.

          Oh so corporate grift wrapped in a green paper sounds like it’s not a complaint to you? He set EVs back 10 years.

          I’m not complaining that things aren’t happening day enough. I’m complaining that you’re lying about what he’s done. I’m complaining that he lies about his accomplishments and then wonders why people don’t just fawn over him.

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            And you’re still crying that it’s not fast enough. Someone said it has to be reclassified first before either decriminalization or legalization (no idea if accurate). But you just want to cry that the boulder isn’t being pushed up the hill fast enough. And crying over what he could and did do. Not to mention that he can’t do it - Congress passes legislation, not the President. He did what he could which is tell DEA to look at it.

            Still crying over not doing Herculean overhaul in TWO years. Because you need Congress. Congress is the one that could do massive reform, not the president. You don’t even know how your own government works and yet you want to cry. This is some serious “I’m 14 and don’t know how things work, but I’m going to cry about Biden bad” from you. That’s twice that you don’t even know how your government works.

            Dude you can negotiate without a strike. This is more “14 and don’t know how things work”. Here I looked it up for you https://youtu.be/EM6jMtG_MB8 Also pay attention to how a rail strike would have ground the US economy to a halt. But don’t get the wrong idea, it was about Biden’s success pushing on the negotiations. You should watch him regularly. I’m very certain there’s another one with even more rail union wins but he often has shitty titles so I can’t find it. Don’t forget to cry though.

            And more crying about green power generation. You want to set up a domestic industry, green power is not one and done. You can do way more when your country’s money feeds back into itself. For both generation and EVs. This is more 14 and have no idea how industry or long term industry works. But you just want to cry about not fast enough.

            You dropped the chips stuff too.

            I thought this before, but your reply here showed it full tilt. You have some serious “I’m 14 and don’t know how anything works” vibes. You are the epitome of what was said at the start:

            Good news! Apparently a lot of excitingly new young progressives are mad we haven’t rolled it back up high enough and are refusing to help!

            Wait. Okay, not good news. Sorry.

            And

            Because they’re not rolling it up fast enough! Can’t you see? They just have to roll it faster and preferably all the way and then I’ll get excited and help. Yup. Until then I’ll be adding ankle weights to you too. And don’t forget it’s all your fault too.

            I notice you didn’t respond about voting either.

            No matter what I say you’ll cry about something when you don’t even know how things work, so Ciao.

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              Right. We’re done here. I’m not the person you think you’re arguing with. It is a very simple idea. Stop lying about progress made. Have fun with your straw man. I think anyone reading this can see the lies about what’s been accomplished.

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                So you didn’t read anything huh? Or did you get too embarrassed at your own mistakes and how they bordered on lies? Why am I bothering with someone that denies reality. Ciao. (But if I find more rail wins from Biden I’ll let you know.)

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                  OMG you caught me! I’ve been lying the entire time! Presidential pardons are totally reform. Schedule 3 substances don’t give you a record and a year in prison. The rail road workers aren’t still working under the points system, without key personnel, don’t have to schedule their sick days a month in advance, and definitely don’t have to worry about having those sick days cancelled on the day and being punished under the points system for that. The IRA was totally not actually a political grift to donors wrapped in green-wash.

                  You guys must be stamped in the same propaganda factory, “Quick, do a projection! Then people won’t know who’s telling the truth!”