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I feel kind of lame dying on this hill but I was going to finally buy this game this weekend and now I’m on the fence
Don’t feel lame. I’m not buying it now. Requirements like these are taking over gaming and it’s asinine.
I’m not creating a new account for every new game I want to play. Ubisoft, Rockstar, EA, Sony, Microsoft… It’s absolutely maddening.
Half the reason companies do this is to spam your email address, track you, and sell your data.
Yeah…not sure why I’d ever make a new PlayStation account to play a game on my PC…I haven’t had a console since the PS3 (and it was my roommate’s so no account)
I want to play but not with a rootkit
I played for 90 hours, it’s fun. But like many games where the narrative is determined by hundreds of thousands of people, it suffers from the Marvel Studios problem where nothing ever happens. The aliens destroy X planet and it gets rebuilt and everyone moves back. No attacks on super earth, two enemy types, mostly the same set of planets.
The gameplay loops are fun, but I have most stuff unlocked and was hoping the robots would really make an incursion, or the bugs would attack super earth. So far though, no dice.
For $40 and 90 hours of play, I can’t complain. It just doesn’t feel like it has the staying power of a DRG though.
Yeah, I was initially invested in the whole meta narrative, but when we wiped out the bots and they just… Came back again lmao, I lost interest somewhat. I’ll still dip in here and there, it’s a fun game, but I would have liked to see the campaign be more emergent and the missions actually reflect what’s happening more.
I bought this game, then couldn’t remember my PSN password, or recover my PSN account. Didn’t realize it was optional. But I got a Steam refund.
Please do not make me jump through extra hoops to play your games, devs.
Even Paradox didn’t make me create an account to play C:S and devs shouldn’t aim lower than Paradox lol
I read that the devs didn’t make this choice. Apparently Sony did.
I’m right there with you
Buy it. The game is fun.
Doesn’t sound very Democracy.
Actually, considering the themes of the game, this is very Democracy.
You’re confusing democracy with capitalism.
You are confusing what the game calls Democracy to what it actually is.
Ahh but what of Sony Managed Democracy?
I wonder who they will vote for me next year?!
Man I really really hate the state of gaming right now…pay to win, in game currency, DLCs, half ass games made… I liked this game but this is by far stupid and makes no sense for me to continue playing. I honestly shouldn’t have to worry about “account linking” when buying a game on steam.
This feels like a bait and switch, why wasnt this mandatory and upfront from the beginning? They knew that would hurt sales…
As I understand it, it’s in the TOS and it was not implemented on launch because of “bugs”.
made a PSN account, verifying my email doesn’t work – just never sends an email no matter how many times I tell it to resend, I know the email works and I know it’s not in my spam folder. Can’t verify, can’t link accounts. Guess if Sony doesn’t fix their site or reverse course, I’m done playing in a month + out the money I spent on the game. Sucks, had over 200 hours in it, but I guess every game dies sooner or later.
I’m thinking they believe this will fix the ongoing cross play issue, but from the sounds of it made things worse.
Me and my friends easily put in 50+ hours in 2 weeks, and then cross play stopped working since the start of March and none of us have touched it since as we wanted to spread democracy with the squad.
I don’t think Devs are to blame. Sony sent them engineers when servers were failing and are probably expecting some goodwill back.
Of course they are, they agreed to work with sony, they added or allowed sony to add this requirement.
This
Apparently this was always a planned feature but probably wasn’t ready for prime time at launch.
I will find a way to refund or chargeback or something. I hate that they feel they can change the contract like this
It’s been “in the contract” since the beginning, they weren’t enforcing it and you didn’t read it
What about people who spent real money and don’t have PSN in their region? Are they not legitimate customers with legitimate grievances? Or is that only for American consumers?
They most likely will be able to get a refund
Just like the people who lost access to the Discovery Channel content when Sony lost the rights to distribute? Wait a minute…
And people bought it while it wasn’t being enforced so it’s still sifting goalposts post-purchase.
That logic doesn’t make sense. It is as if a cheater would justify using hacks by saying “you guys weren’t enforcing it, so I am allowed to cheat” when all they were doing is grabbing all the cheaters for a banwave
Well that’s a shame because that’s how things like copyright laws work. That’s why companies like Nintendo are so overly litigious. Whether you like it or not, people bought Helldivers 2 and didn’t need to have a PSN account to play it. Now Sony is making it so they do, several months after purchase and long after customers would typically be able to get a refund. Sony never gave information on the waived requirement coming back, customers could only possibly know there was originally a requirement for yet another third-party account that serves little purpose to the user and that requirement was waived. For months now players have been buying the game, launching it and actively playing it without once signing in to PSN. This is also going to cause a subset of owners to completely lose access to the game they legitimately bought because of Sony’s short-sightedness to enforce a network requirement in countries that network simply doesn’t exist. This is a case of moving the goalposts, arbitrarily removing content from legally-abiding customers and this isn’t the first time. Maybe you’ve already forgotten the controversy with Discovery? This isn’t a good look for Sony to be pulling content from clients twice within 6 months, no matter how different the means.
Yeah, in the fine print that nobody reads
Review bombing incomming
Is it a “review bomb” for complaining about a legit problem with the game that stops you from playing?
But it was included in the game launch announcement? People getting mad about not reading before clicking is absurd.
I’ve worked retail and promise you: A sign could be flashing Hunter Orange, have several arrows pointing to it, with a dozen Vegas Peacock Dancers behind, four trumpets blaring, and be the size of a billboard, and people still won’t read it.
And is that the fault of the business? No. Entitled consumers bitching about something that was plainly communicated on the store page and upon game launch, and clicked to accept the terms is still ridiculous.
Keep licking those corporate boots, my friend.
The requirement was disabled. Most people aren’t lawyers and shouldn’t be expected - or legally obligated - to read a legal document before engaging in an everyday task. Do you want life to be like this, boot-licker?
Just want to jump on the train of calling you a bootlicker for defending piece of shit corpos and ignoring human nature :)
Listen I try to read every agreement myself, but I missed this one too. Was this something you really caught and understood on reading the EULA?
I also hate EULAs being AFTER purchase and download.
It’s not review bombing if the criticisms are legitimate. Forcing people to link accounts multiple months into a game is a legitimate gripe.
It’s easier than ever to never play a AAA game. The trend of launching games on broken promises with 14 prompts to spend money before you even reach the main menu is getting old.
I don’t think Helldivers would be considered AAA. Probably more like AA.
My issue with this one wasn’t that it promised anything, the game was launched normally it was enjoyable and then they pulled this crap.
Sounds like the price for doing business with Sony PlayStation.
gfdi
On the plus side, I have rediscovered my joy of reading.
I guess this is the day I’m remembering my psn password.
Don’t capitulate to terrorists. If everyone stops playing and buying they will reverse course.
Sony and AH CMs have crossed a line.
