- military neutrality
- outlaw extreme nationalism
- cede Crimea and part of Donbass
- full Russian withdrawal
- guarantor countries (🇨🇳🇺🇸🇫🇷🇬🇧🇹🇷) obliged to intervene within 3 days if Russia invades
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cede Crimea and part of Donbass
full Russian withdrawal
These contradict each other.
The whole list is “Let the invader win and blame the victim” so go fuck yourself.
If you can’t understand that things have gotten far worse for Ukraine in every respect in the past two years, while hundreds of thousands of people died, and millions more had their lives ruined, then kindly take your own advise. It’s incredible how libs love to moralize while the actual tangible outcome of their actions is always nightmarish. This is what happens when people become completely disengaged from reality.
They didn’t defend themselves strongly enough when Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, and Russia then invaded again. Why would letting Russia annex more land do anything other tha encourage them to finish the job they have clearly stated was fully conquering Ukraine?
You are the one denying reality. Or shilling for Putin more likely.
Which “they” didn’t defend themselves strongly enough in 2014? The US-installed coup government or the people of Crimea who welcomed the Russian government?
Russia is literally in the process of fully conquering Ukraine as we speak. What part of that are you struggling to comprehend there?
The part where you think Ukraine should roll over and give up.
You mean the western backed regime in Ukraine that’s kidnapping people off the street and forcing them to fight in a proxy war?
Is today opposite day?
It’s so bad that even western media admits this, maybe try engaging with reality? https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html
Just be aware this poster is often posting pro-Russian, pro-China content. There’s value in other points of view and not being myopic, but if you pay attention to posting trends or look at their history, there is a clear bias and/or agenda.
Do people not have a right to an opinion? Or are you telling us what and how we should think and believe?
People have the right to an opinion, and I have the right to point out the obvious idiocy of that opinion. If you have an actual counterpoint to what I said, then feel free to expound on it.
Just be aware this poster is often posting pro-Russian, pro-China content. There’s value in other points of view and not being myopic, but if you pay attention to posting trends or look at their history, there is a clear bias and/or agenda.
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I agree with you. Disagreement in views isn’t a comment about an individual themselves.
That doesn’t change a pattern of posting and comments that are distinctly pro-Russian, pro-China.
Please explain to the class why you keep trying to paint posting factual information about the state of the world nefarious.
I love how libs always resort to smearing people instead of engaging with the actual points being made.
I enjoy how this comment seems to counter what another commenter said about you.
It’s hardly a smear to point of a bias or perspective you hold. I’m not commenting on you, your politics, or worldview. Just pointing out that others should do their own research.
But if that is smearing in your perspective, and that makes me a ‘lib’, alright.
It’s very obvious why you made your comment and what you were trying to accomplish with it.
Seeing a lot of downvotes on this, so let just say for those who perhaps think focus is some hockus website…
Alongside Spiegel and Stern, Focus is one of the three most widely circulated German weeklies.
It is a well regarded German outlet.
It might be a well regarded outlet, but it’s not saying what people want to hear.
BILD is also one of the most widely circulated German media outlets, that doesn’t mean that their content isn’t full of nonsense. Circulation says nothing about bias or lack thereof or even quality of journalism.
It’s a respected mainstream publication, if you’re implying there are quality issues with their reporting then please substantiate that.
