Lemmy.ca
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • Create Community
  • heart
    Support Lemmy
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
naturalgasbad to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago

US intelligence believes Putin probably didn't order Navalny to be killed, Wall Street Journal reports

www.reuters.com

external-link
message-square
23
link
fedilink
  • cross-posted to:
  • [email protected]
  • [email protected]
99
external-link

US intelligence believes Putin probably didn't order Navalny to be killed, Wall Street Journal reports

www.reuters.com

naturalgasbad to World News@lemmy.ml · 1 year ago
message-square
23
link
fedilink
  • cross-posted to:
  • [email protected]
  • [email protected]
alert-triangle
You must log in or register to comment.
  • Dippy@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    he was probably quite happy with knowing his opposition leader and having them controlled that way

  • MyPornViewingAccount@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    18
    ·
    1 year ago

    Did he say, “Kill this man,” no, probably not.

    Did he say, “Take care of this problem,” I’m willing to bet.

    • Jimmybander@champserver.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      33
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I mean. Being locked in a Russian prison is not good for your health. The system is working as intended.

      • mozz@mbin.grits.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        18
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        It’s actually preferable for Putin for a few different reasons if it’s simply a slow death because of unlivable conditions, than to have someone take him out back and shoot him quickly or something like that.

        But yes, the system is working 100% as intended; this is a feature.

    • Woozythebear@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      32
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      Over six thousand prisoners died behind bars in America during 2020. It turns out that prisons are awful places with awful conditions that lead to people’s death.

      • muse@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        13
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        Removed by mod

        • Woozythebear@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          Bro are you ok?

    • NegativeNull@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Won’t someone rid me of this meddlesome journalist?

    • ikidd@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Obligatory Mitchell and Webb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6cake3bwnY

  • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    1 year ago

    To be clear, Putin never ordered the death of anyone. Some Russians just have shitty windows and are extra susceptible to the effects of gravity. They didn’t choose to be pre-disposed to falling to their deaths. They were just born that way. What are you gonna do?

    /s

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      It could also be some other, lower down Kremlin guy who wanted him dead. Unfortunately this won’t load for me, so I can’t comment too much.

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    deleted by creator

    • NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Gotta gather support for funding and hate for Russia somehow. As far as why or how he ended up dead who knows. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was a false flag

    • Mycatiskai
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      Putin wanted him to die a painful slow death in jail. He instead got a painful less slow death in jail.

  • reksas@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    Putin likely ordered him to be kept in such conditions that he will die because of that.

  • Olifant@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    I never thought he specifically ordered the killing blow but given that he did order him jailed in cruel conditions under a ton of bogus charges Navalny’s death is on his head either way.

  • Alsephina@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    It’s surprising that he even survived as long as he did after taking nerve gas.

    Regardless, I sure as hell won’t be complaining about a racist like Navalny dying

  • muse@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    deleted by creator

  • LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    1 year ago

    Imma press X to doubt

  • HowMany@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    1 year ago

    Riiiiiignt…

  • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.mlBanned
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    29
    ·
    1 year ago

    Oh no, Putin is not as bad as shitlibs claim. Shitlibs are still worse. Now even USA said it, how will they cope?

    • SaltySalamander@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      27
      arrow-down
      13
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Putin is every bit as bad as claimed. If you don’t see that, you’re fucking blind. Navalny was only in prison to begin with because Putin is a thin-skinned shitheel that can’t handle even a modicum of criticism.

      • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        I can’t speak to why Navalny was in prison, I only know that he was a fascist who wanted to invite US capitalists back to resume their neoliberal shock therapy plundering that started under Yeltsin and ended under Putin.

        • 2007: Video: Alexei Navalny Compares Muslims to Cockroaches
        • BBC, 2021: Amnesty [International] strips Alexei Navalny of ‘prisoner of conscience’ status
        • Workers World, 2024: Who was Alexei Navalny? A violent white supremacist and fascist on U.S. payroll
      • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.mlBanned
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Navalny called Muslims cockroaches. This is all I need to know about that fascist. He got a better deal than guillotine tbh.

    • Truth_Hurts@lemmus.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      1 year ago

      Removed by mod

      • muse@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        Removed by mod

    • muse@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      10 months ago

      Removed by mod

      • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Yes we just love us some dictators uwu 🙄 Copypasta from a previous conversation:

        Honest question from a non-communist, based on your reply here. Does one need to support Putin to be a Marxist?

        In a word, no. In a few more words, support for Russia (not Putin, as historical materialists don’t subscribe to great man theory) is only a partial, temporary, tactical one, in the context of imperialist liberation. Russia is still a capitalist state, though, so it’s a two stage strategy: first liberate colonized bourgeois states from colonizer states, and second revolution within those liberated bourgeois states.

        Russia is an interesting case: it has already liberated itself from the post-Soviet “shock therapy” neocolonizers. This occurred during Putin’s administration, which is why he is especially hated by the US. So now the support for Russia is in the context of keeping the colonizers from recolonizing it, and supporting Russia to the extent that it helps other states liberate themselves. But Russia isn’t trying to “liberate” Ukraine, at least not all of Ukraine. It’s trying to resolve the genocidal attacks on the people of the Donbas, and it’s trying to resolve the imperialist military expansion at its border.

        • Robert Parry, 2015: The Mess that Nuland Made
        • Jeffery Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
        • zbyte64@awful.systems
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          I agree entirely that Russia is liberating Ukraine like they did with Georgia… if you replace liberating with vassalizing.

World News@lemmy.ml

worldnews@lemmy.ml

Subscribe from Remote Instance

Create a post
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: [email protected]

News from around the world!

Rules:

  • Please only post links to actual news sources, no tabloid sites, etc

  • No NSFW content

  • No hate speech, bigotry, propaganda, etc

Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 851 users / day
  • 2.28K users / week
  • 4.44K users / month
  • 12.4K users / 6 months
  • 995 local subscribers
  • 36K subscribers
  • 16.8K Posts
  • 119K Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • Rumblestiltskin@lemmy.ml
  • AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml
  • Jack.@lemmy.ml
  • zephyreks@lemmy.ml
  • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
  • UI: 0.19.11
  • BE: 0.19.11-n.1
  • Modlog
  • Legal
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code
  • join-lemmy.org