• CubitOom@infosec.pub
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    Just wanted to clarify something here about Canadians… So you put your milk in bags but your vodka goes into milk jugs?

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      Bagged milk isn’t common in Edmonton, 4L jugs just like this are ubiquitous in Alberta. That’s more of a BC+Ontario+Quebec thing. I can’t remember if the Maritimes do it now.

      That being said, I’m not sure if you could store vodka in a bag, with booze being so controlled. I suppose boxed wine is a bag inside.

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            I have a vague memory of seeing bagged Island Farms milk in one grocery store on Vancouver Island but it would’ve been over 20 years ago. I only ever knew one family that bought it, and they were complete weirdos across the board.

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        Bagged milk isn’t common in Edmonton,

        In the last 30+ years it’s only really common in Ontario.

        Back in the late 70s it was tested across the country, but only for a few years.

        But, apparently, what happens in Toronto means that it must be normal in the entire country, according to the rest of the world…

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          Ah yes, Toronto, Canada’s largest and only city. /s

          Good to know. I’m guessing the information I had about BC was from the late 80’s, but it’s possible it was just that guy’s specific family. I’ll have to ask older people I know if it was ever a thing here.

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            I just used kagi to search for the conversion, and thought the long decimal was funny.

            But now that I think of it, does Canada make it’s own 4 L jugs so they can be accurately advertised or do they just use the US 1 gal jugs and call it a 4 L out of convenience but then write in fine print on the bottom that it’s actually 3.79 L?

            Unless that is actually a 4L jug of vodka, couldn’t someone sue for misrepresenting the amount of product being sold?

            Someone’s liquid here is probably not precise. And I’m going to guess it’s the one claiming to be a larger volume with an additional manufacturing cost.

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    Just calculated if this good value.

    4L of alcohol like this would be €142.80 in Ireland.

    So the price in the picture is actually quite good value lol

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      You have us beat on beer, but Alberta sure knows how to distill chemicals. And also taxes most things pretty lightly.

      This comes out to €34,19 to save everyone a click.

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    If you need a cheap 40% ethanol solution for some reason, this is a decent bargain.

    I don’t recommend drinking it.

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      Depends on the plastic, but most plastics are fine.

      Hand sanitizer usually comes in plastic bottles and can be ethanol or isopropyl (rubbing) alcohol. Also you can buy high percentage isopropyl (and sometimes ethanol) at the drugstore in plastic bottles. Also many large bottles of liquor come in clear plastic versions.

      I wouldn’t recommend using Plexiglas or acetate though. Alcohol will eat those up.

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      Which plastic? High-density polyethylene or HDPE(Number 2) plastic is rated for most common chemical storage. It’s used for milk and sulfuric acid. It’s also rated for up to water’s boiling temperature.

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      I haven’t had it dissolve plastic per se, but it definitely tastes funky pretty quickly if you’re using the sort not intended to store alcohol.

      That being said several popular brands offer plastic versions of their product and it’s basically the same stuff.

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          Honestly I do the same. Even though the plastic bottles don’t impart flavor, I’m sure they leech something nasty in there.

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      Well, everything stored in plastic bottles and containers tastes a little plastic-y to me. But alcohol will dissolve all kinds of things that water can’t, so I’m pretty sure this is much worse.

      The thing to consider is: what quality of distillation comes with a package that’s just a little nicer than a plastic bag?

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        Every cheap clear spirit from an AB producer is proofed, or re-distilled 97%abv neutral grain spirit from a factory in Saskatchewan. The neutral grain spirit from Saskatchewan is very high quality, so, actually kind of impossible to fuck up. Some distilleries actually manage to, however.

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      Do you not have liquor in plastic bottles? It’s never the good shit, but cheap shit is often in plastic and this is the cheapest shit. As an American I spend about $29ish CAD on 1.5L on dirt cheap local bourbon. Maybe I could get as low as $20 CAD on vodka barely fit for human consumption for 1.5L. But 4L I’m not getting for less than $40 CAD

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      Just get a cheap decanter. Problem solved if you’re one to take it slow. But something tells me this isn’t the target audience here.

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        I know its a joke but one reason I don’t drink much is because I have a hard time drinking enough, fast enough, for it to be worth it. I don’t like the taste of most alcohol and what I do drink I get sick of fast.

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    I was recently in Japan and found a store selling a 4L bottle of Suntory whiskey. I was shocked by it too, thing was fuckin massive.

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      Alberta doesn’t really get involved in alcohol the same way that provinces that care about their population does.

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        Trust me Ontario government doesn’t care about its people, they just regulate the hell out of alcohol in order to milk the money. They’re doing the same with gambling

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          Trust me Ontario government doesn’t care about its people, they just regulate the hell out of alcohol

          But I was promised “buck a beer”…

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        AB government advocacy for local craft producers: Drake no

        AB government advocacy for gambling and cannabis: Drake yes

        The liquor regulation system in Alberta is prohibitionary already. What changes would you want to see?

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          Drake is a Pedo.

          Can you please consider using an alternate format like Geordi in the future to make that future a better place

          My thanks for your and everyone’s consideration.

          Edit: fixedlink. an excellent lemming pointed out i hadnt copied the article i thought i had. Should have been about wrong Pedo named Drake. Apparently theres more than one.

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              Ahh fack. Thanks. I meant to change the article i copied but didnt copy the correct one. Thanks for being my editor, even if it wasnt your goal!

              Much love. Ill go fix it with the correct article about Drake from degrassi and who is also the rapper, and the pedo shit he was caught doing that we know about

              Edit for clarity(i hope)

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            Alberta does have minimum prices for both wholesale as well as on-premise liquor.

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              Based on this image, I just assumed that they didn’t.

              That jug is 160 units for $50. $0.31 per unit is a little low.

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                Minimum pricing in AB, AFAIK, is regulated on the wholesale price of the product. So, producers are regulated, but retail stores aren’t prevented from competition, loss leaders, stunts, etc., which is what this might be.

                Given that the tax money from alcohol/tobacco just goes into provincial and federal slush funds that proportionately end up being funneled into seniors benefits, I don’t believe minimum pricing really addresses the things that people think it does. I’m an advocate of directing alcohol taxes towards the harms it creates. But, try to find a politician who wants to grind that axe. I say this as someone who enjoys a good beverage, & acknowledging the pragmatic importance of offsetting the healthcare costs of alcohol abuse. I don’t believe that simply making a good more expensive is the wisest move on the policy side, if healthcare outcomes are the ultimate target.

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        It’s true both that the current government doesn’t give a shit, and we don’t regulate alcohol much, but I’m guessing alcohol use rates are actually not that bad. Stereotypically, anyway, the Maratimes should all drink us under the table.

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        And the concern, as far as I can tell, was that it’s too cheap for one of the umpteen ministers, and he felt that’s unfair to other producers. Not the packaging.

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      Something like Smirnoff is about $30.00 for a 750ml bottle most places in Canada.

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        That sounds about right, I don’t buy much alcohol these days but when I did it would be around $12-15 for a 375ml of most bottom tier spirits. And I don’t remember any getting significantly cheaper/ml by buying a bigger bottle like you’d see with most other products.

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      Idk where you are getting your vodka, but low value brands in the US (Ohio specifically for me because oir state liquor board controls the proce of all spirits state wide) cost about $12 for a handle. I would agree that this is too expensive for what it is, but premium vodka like Titos or Grey Goose cost $37 for a handle, which is over double the price per liter, and those are USD, not CAD. Admittedly it has been nearly a decade since i was in an LCBO, but i know Canadian alcohol prices are al2ays higher than American ones, which is why you can’t take alcohol north across the boarder.

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        Will yes and no. The trick is to shop at the duty free stores when you are driving across the border to get US like prices on liqour.

        They typically will have the best deals on alcohol in Canada because of the ancient prohibitionist influence on our liquor laws are avoided. Not sure if this loophole has been closed yet though

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      Canada has alcohol taxes I think. Also those ain’t real dollars, but their local variant.

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    I can only assume when a politician says this is irresponsible that they want the price to be lower?

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      It doesn’t come in imperialism form, it is in liberté form.