• Beaver
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    23
    ·
    7 months ago

    You wouldn’t call people “it”. It’s about showing respect.

    • ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      I wouldn’t, but I am calling animals it. Only in English tho, we don’t do that in my native language.

    • UnearthedUnusual@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      I know a few people who use it/its pronouns. While I agree that treating animals with respect is a good thing, it pronouns are not necessarily a sign of disrespect or objectification.

      • Beaver
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        13
        ·
        7 months ago

        Well in that case that is different but usually when we say “it” that is used to refer to physical objects like book or treat. Animals being seen as property harms them.

        • intensely_human@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          No, because people can be respectful of animals while using the word “it”.

          You’re asserting all this extra stuff that the word does not convey, because you’ve unconsciously decided that is the only way to use the word.

          But as others are telling you, and is true, it is common in English to use “it” for animals. Despite what your lit teacher told you, that does not create disrespect for the animals. People have been caring for animals, people with hearts, people who don’t treat animals the way they would a book, while using the word “it”, for as long as the English language had existed.

          That thing where you can’t have empathy for an “it”, that a rule in your head.

          • Beaver
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            9
            ·
            7 months ago

            People have been caring for animals, people with hearts, people who don’t treat animals the way they would a book, while using the word “it”, for as long as the English language had existed.

            I doubt that when factory farms exist.

            Humanity kills more than 80 billion land animals and trillions of aquatic animals ever year.

            https://awellfedworld.org/factory-farms/

        • Nythos@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          11
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          The person getting upset at another person calling a doe an it, telling another to touch grass is just peak internet.

          • MashBoilPitch@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            7 months ago

            Ikr. I think were now supposed to say something about how this kind of interaction is so reddit. Loudly enough that we can ignore that it’s just how people behave in general.

            • nomous@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              7 months ago
              • on the internet.

              Cause I promise if I talked like that in real life I’d get eye rolls and wouldn’t be invited out anymore. It’s a great example of “theory is fine but you need to interact with others.”

          • Beaver
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            7 months ago

            deleted by creator

    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      7 months ago

      But you would immediately jump in to correct another adult’s use of language, as if they were a child. Despite this talk of respect.

      • Beaver
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        11
        ·
        7 months ago

        No it is a given.

        • No_@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          From the person who said “touch some grass buddy”. You cannot get more condescending or hypocritical than that. Narcissists will narcissist.