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What a disgusting shithole america has become.
Become? They call it the American dream because you gotta be asleep to believe it.
I miss George
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Tukeyá, beltalowda?
The American Dream has morphed into this “anyone can be rich” idea.
When I was a kid, it was a house and two cars.
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You’re being very hyperbolic. We have a house and two cars. I have around $200 in my bank account. Admittedly, it helps that we do not live in the most desirable part of the country, but we also live paycheck-to-paycheck and have not even ever been hundred thousandaires.
You can’t be poor and achieve it, but you don’t have to be rich either.
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I didn’t mean to suggest that. Housing prices and car prices are ridiculously and unnecessarily high. I’m just saying that the American dream has morphed into something that at least a large proportion of the population can even now achieve into something that almost no one can achieve.
Yeah, it was started by rich people looking to increase their wealth and influence and has remained under their control ever since.
It’s only going to get worse. Money buys elections and Putin, along with American oligarchs have a lot to spend on getting their desired results.
You mean AIPAC.
Yet it remains one of the happiest countries in the world. I’m not saying we don’t have our problems, because we clearly do, but the idea that the country is a “shit hole” is just baseless nonsense.
Top 23 isnt what I would call “Happiest country in the world” Especially not for the worlds most powerful nation. So yeah, shit hole applies
Edit: For perspective, theres 190± countries depending on whos counting, The most powerful Country on this planet doesnt even enter the top 10% of countries with the happiest citizens. At 190, the states is in the top 12%
Happier than nearly 90% of the countries in the world isn’t amount the happiest? Where do you draw the line then? Seems like your definition is ridiculously narrow.
Once again, the ACTUAL MOST Powerful Nation in the world is basically at the bottom of the list when compared to countries of similar wealth and political stability. US only looks good when you compare it to countries with significant poverty or political problems. So yes, if you’re trying to escape life under a cartel, the states is a better option, if you live in Europe, the Commonwealth, or any of the Nordic Countries, hell no would you move to the States
Europe, the Commonwealth, or any of the Nordic Countries
(Just for clarity, the Nordic countries are part of Europe if anyone thought anything else)
And it’s still happier than nearly 90% of the world. To me, that’s one of the happiest in the world. Where do you draw the line?
I don’t care where it stands in relation to other countries. The problem is that happiness is decreasing at an alarming rate.
Well, I was responding to a claim that the US is a “disgusting shit hole” not that our happiness is dropping.
Bowing down to the wealthiest people is what makes it a shithole. America sold its self respect to give the rich more tax breaks.
1: Shithole is in response to your country’s remarks about other countries
2: You are bragging about being lower than the DEFAULT for countries similar wealth and political stability as the US. Its like someone with an alcohol addiction, but who doesnt have to work for a living bragging that they feel more fulfilled in life than someone who is struggling to put food on the table for their children
Shithole is in response to your country’s remarks about other countries
This makes zero sense in the context.
You are bragging
Challenging the nonsensical claim that the us is a “disgusting shit hole” is not the equivalent of bragging about anything.
A drunk man can be happier than a sober one, but that’s not much to brag about.
Who’s bragging? Certainly not me. I just challenged the nonsensical claim.
More needs to be said about taxing the wealthy. 70% for every dollar over 10 million. Wealth tax for those hoarding wealth in stocks.
Fuck 70. It was 91 after WWII.
I read somewhere that that was literally only for a single person. But the fact that taxes were used to aggressively trying to curb wealth hoarding is something we need to look at today
You are way too generous.
Some own islands, land, mansions, art, bonds, cars, boats.
Not generous, but not thorough. Don’t ask me to write the bill!
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Oh yeah, this is just a GOP problem. Like people don’t get richer during Biden administration. Please stop using every problem in this system to get your rich genocide candidate elected instead of looking for actual problems.
Stop manipulating people into flip flopping voting for the other party every time this system hurts us more and more, if we don’t get rid of both of them at the same time we only made one monster bigger.
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Nitpicking stories out of context is just as bad as lies. Biden does the same things, just lies more about it and hides it better. https://www.investmentnews.com/tax/news/biden-bill-provides-tax-cut-for-millionaires-hike-for-mega-rich-214502 “However, the updated figures also show that despite the higher tax rate, those earning at least $1 million would collectively pay $46.8 billion less in taxes in 2022.”
A tax hike for the mega rich you say?
It wasn’t enough of a hike, and therefore worthless. Just like he isn’t pressing Israel hard enough, so he’s literally Hitler. /s
What the fuck would you know about it, Canada?
And yet poor people keep voting for him, thinking that the used car
salesmanclown will make them richUsed car clown? Sounds scary
Pretty sure he’s a used clown car salesman.
How does a used clown get into the car selling business?
“We all float in the swamp, Jimmy”
(Imagine Pennywise, but orange)
poor peopletemporarily impoverishedThis is the problem. Americans think their side hustle will hit big any day and they’ll be billionaires, that’s why the laws should be pro-wealthy
It’s not like these billionaires are spending this money, so it’s just been invested for 7 years. What’s the old adage, Rule of 72? Given a 10% rate of return, they would be expected to double their money in…
…seven years.
While the tax policies certainly aren’t helping the majority of the population, let’s not pretend compound interest isn’t a thing.
It’s not as if that makes it any better. Tax policy should be designed to actively combat the inequality increase created by compound interest, not go along with it.
But, due to their investments they do invest it in large quantities, often spread over a large stock portfolio.
And if we had a fraction of a penny financial transaction tax, we’d get a ridiculous amount of money from the investor class and almost no one else would be affected.
For a week, until all the quants do the math and realize HFT isn’t profitable anymore.
That would mean less revenue, but stock traders would still make many transactions per day like they did before HFT, so it would still bring in a massive amount of revenue.
Well yeah, significantly less (50% of all trades are HFT) but I see your point.
That’s more than inflation I wonder where it’s coming from.
Wealth is not cash or cash equivalents though. They aren’t investing all of their wealth
Most of the wealth of billionaires is invested, often in the same vehicles used by everyone else (stocks, real estate, etc).
Till we close the loop holes for these billionaire foundations buying elections (i.e. the Koch network) - billionaires will continue to tip the scales their way. Courts also need to be 10 year appointments, not life time.
More over we need to make it easier to remove both federal and state judges from their positions if necessary. As it stands now removing judge for any form of misbehavior is far too difficult.
Trump is such a shit stain
This is a problem of every popular candidate in both parties, even in a lot of third parties.
No, he is orders of magnitude worse.
Still waiting for that trickle down.
How trickle down really works
What we need is a controlling asset tax, 99.9% tax on the value of assets controlled beyond $100m
0.1% of a billion dollars is still 10m. Since we’re on track to see our first trillionaires soon, I’d argue we need a 100% tax bracket as well. 0.1% of a trillion is 10 billion.
0.1% of a billion dollars is still 10m.
It’s 1m.
You’re correct, I multiplied by .01 instead of .001.
Wouldn’t matter, 99.9 is enough to trash these fortunes within a few years.
We need to change how stocks work. Separate investing in a company and buying control. That way we can tax unrealized capital gains. Put a 100M$ cap on personal wealth. Since the argument against it is always that people will lose control of companies if they’re forced to sell stock. Either that or ban stock as a medium of anything other than investing in the company. No using it as collateral, no trading it, just straight back to the company for what it’s worth.
How likely is it that the trump tax giveaway was all about FUNDING the Fascist takeover of America ? Because they wouldn’t have had the money otherwise
But what for? Even with the toys of millionaires (yachts, villas), over a few 100 millions it’s only a number.
They don’t just buy toys. They buy laws, politicians, service, deference, control, luxury, immunity…
When you have that much money everything is for sale and people will kiss your ass to sell it to you.
For what, to make more number go up? Or would you murder someone if you could get away with murder? Or maybe they didn’t get that rich in legal ways, in the first place?
There’s a concept called the hedonic readmill. Essentially “nothing is ever enough.”
You chase power/money for greater happiness, but our natural tendency is to then feel neutral once we achieve it and so you want to chase greater happiness and so on and so on…
Exactly, hubris and greed.
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It’s not just billionaires. If you put any amount of money into the S&P500 in Jan 1 2017, it would be worth more than twice as much today.
But is it really fair that a person with 50 million can turn that into 100 million, whereas most people can turn at most $5,000 into $10,000?
Earning $5,000 over 7 years is basically worthless.
The median 40 year old has retirement savings of $45K, not $5K. And the median 70 year old has savings of $200K. In both groups, doubling the amount is quite significant.
Using median makes it a loaded statistic skewed in favor of the minority (in this case, the wealthy).
Over half the country is living paycheck-to-paycheck, so that median number is already in the ‘well-off’ category by default, making them irrelevant to the main point of discussion.
You have it backwards. The mean, not the median, is skewed by outliers.
If there are ten people in a room with $10 and one person with $1,000,000, the media
