What's behind Russian frenzy to blame Ukraine for concert attack?
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Parroting the Kremlin line, Russian media is ignoring IS claims of responsibility for the Crocus City attack.

It began with hints. Intimation.

Now, it’s no holds barred accusations.

The Russian authorities are aggressively pushing the line that Ukraine and the West were behind last month’s Crocus City concert hall massacre outside Moscow which left 145 people dead.

The Islamic State group quickly claimed responsibility for the attack. But soon after the suspected gunmen were detained President Vladimir Putin hinted at a Ukrainian connection.

At the weekend Russian state TV broadcast interrogation videos of the four suspects, all citizens of Tajikistan. One of the men said on camera that the post-attack plan had been “to head towards Kyiv”.

Their words must be taken with extreme caution. During a court appearance after their arrest the men showed signs of torture.

  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
    71·
    9 months ago

    Because they need to have some justification for their continued invasion. shit-head fascists gonna fascist, after all.

  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
    39·
    9 months ago

    Option A: admit your security services are myopic and ineffective

    Option B: blame it on the super big bad evil you’ve been building up over the past decade plus that externalizes the root problem

    Hmm…

    • ours@lemmy.worldEnglish
      52·
      9 months ago

      Wait until ISIS publishes videos of the actual terrorists alive and well once they have exfiltraded Russia.

  • Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    9 months ago

    Ukraine just bombing somewhere in Russia is more believable than them doing a state sponsored terrorist attack and not taking credit.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      5·
      9 months ago

      If the attack had been against a political or military target it would be more believable. Ukraine has nothing to gain by attacking civilian targets.

  • theodewere@kbin.social
    510·
    9 months ago

    they want confusion around it, they don’t care which story people like… the people who want to believe it was Ukraine can believe that… people who want to believe it was Muslims can believe that… as long as nobody suspects the real culprits: Russian security services and Putin himself…

    • remoteloveEnglish
      71·
      9 months ago

      Ah shit, boys! This guy figured it all out. It makes complete sense that Russia would hire ISIS to do a job like that, especially after Moscow’s relations with the Taliban have been growing better by the day.

      (Mental parkour award winner of the year! Gold star!)

      • avater@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        it wouldn’t surprise me. Russia became almost comical evil during the last decades, I truly expect everything from them.

        • remoteloveEnglish
          11·
          9 months ago

          Anything is possible and real world events can sometimes be more bizarre than fiction. (It was just the immediate jump to a conspiracy theory that I found hysterical, btw.)

      • theodewere@kbin.social
        27·
        9 months ago

        this guy thinks ISIS can get a team of gunmen into Moscow, and that said team could be captured without any fuss

        • remoteloveEnglish
          31·
          9 months ago

          I have worked security long enough to know most perceived security is an illusion. Also, it might be really easy to find a few non-white people in that part of Russia headed away from Moscow at a fast pace.

          Russian stunts are notoriously bad and Occam’s Razor absolutely applies. It would be magnitudes easier to hire a few Russians to act like Ukrainians and do the same stunt. Blaming Ukraine would be much easier in that case.

          Conspiracy theories aren’t my thing, especially when they are just vomited out with little logic.

            • remoteloveEnglish
              11·
              9 months ago

              That sounds exactly like a statement from a christian fundie about why I am going to hell. Your statement is not really an argument nor does it form a coherent point.

              • theodewere@kbin.social
                13·
                9 months ago

                you’re looking around everywhere for something to hide behind… just look at you, it’s sad to see…

                • remoteloveEnglish
                  11·
                  9 months ago

                  Wut? You give no reasoning, no logic, no supporting evidence and spit out a conspiracy theory and expect people to take you seriously? Lulz.

                  Fuckin’ trolls.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      The one group of people I’m pretty certain it isn’t is the Russian security services. They don’t care about their people but staging a terrorist attack makes them look weak.

      The Russians don’t need justification for the war they can just do it as their population is so cowed that the government can basically do whatever they want. They regularly murder political rivals and no one says boo.

      • theodewere@kbin.social
        1·
        9 months ago

        so it could be virtually anyone else, and that’s what they want you to think… they want everyone in Russia to be worried, and to be unsure where the threat is coming from…