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    Do liberals actually care about mass shootings or do they just hate white men?

    Liberals don’t care about mass shootings. They just want to control people.

    This is so fundamentally wrong, it is detached from reality wrong.

    Liberals don’t want to get shot, and don’t want others to get shot. Liberals want children to to be safe, and not get shot.

    Liberals, right or wrong, misguided or not, have ideas and plans they think will reduce mass shootings and loss of lives. It’s not about controlling people, it’s about saving innocent lives. They are prevented from implementing those plans.

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      This is so fundamentally wrong, it is detached from reality wrong.

      The 2024 Republican political platform be like:

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      It’s all about controlling people. They focus on my guns which are kept responsibly and legally

      Their plans violate th constitution. I know you guys think it’s toilet paper but to us it’s how we run the country.

      If liberals were serious they’d support more law enforcement, longer sentences and other things proven to work. Joe proved that with his crime bill.

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        I hope anyone reading this understands that having a different interpretation of the constitution and having different ideas about how to reduce senseless deaths -even if possibly mistaken or misguided- this doesn’t mean it’s about controlling people and doesn’t mean they think the constitution is toilet paper. That’s just extremist language intended to deligitimize someones difference of opinion.

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          When the liberals want to ban weapons protected by the 2nd amendment from lawful citizens, it’s about control.

          Since most the murders happen in democrat cities. How about they don’t try to tell us how to lower murder rates ? Maybe if they didn’t defund the police and honor criminals, that might me a good start.

          It’s weird liberals think they have a solution when their examples have shown otherwise.

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    I honestly cant tell if the article is racist or if the NYT is, or both. This is so fucked up, why cant people just stop with the racist bullshit?

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    I say “almost certainly black” because kids as young as 12 were out on a downtown city street, unsupervised, at 11:36 p.m. the night before Easter;

    Eeeeeat shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

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    Do liberals actually care about mass shootings or do they just hate white men?

    Liberals don’t care about mass shootings. They just want to control people.

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    Do democrats care about mass shootings? Because we could lower gun violence by legalizing all drugs. Do you hear of liquor stores shooting each other up over territory much these days?

    So whats the hold up democrats? Prove your dedication to lowering gun violence and end the war on drugs. Clearly states can legalize marijuana, so you don’t need to wait for federal reform.

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      The war on drugs is historically championed by conservatives, as it was originally Reagan’s thinly veiled cover for persecuting the black and hippie communities.

      Biden has pardoned thousands of non-violent drug offenders. What’s the next step you’d like to see? Be specific.

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      Oh evil dems, why won’t you fix 100% of america overnight?

      You know why? Because every time a dem is elected they have to prioritize PULLING THE FUCKING COUNTRY OUT OF THE ECONOMIC DITCH THE PAST ADMINISTRATION HAS LEFT US IN. Are you 12?

      Even a child should still remember the economic shithouse Trump left us in.

      You don’t remember 2008 when the economy was fucked and Obama had to restore trust in entire segments of the economy?

      Apparently you’re not a fan of history, you’d know it’s hardly an isolated event - Clinton fixing up the fuckups of Bush, FDR literally rebuilding the economy?

      How is it that you’re so very vociferous about Drug reform and so very ignorant about everything else? Yeah, it’s important, but it’s on a list of other MUCH MORE IMPORTANT priorities, and also, it’s the conservatives fighting it.

      So tired of idiots acting like the dems have to fix everything every damned time they take power - how about conservatives not fucking up the nation for a few terms for a change?

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          I think they reminisce about the racism and sexism, and just forget how bad things got because their racist sexist garbage was in the house.

          And they’d happily do it again, run the country right into the ditch if it meant they could spit on POC, immigrants and anyone else they could OTHER. They’re just that petty, dim, and vindictive.

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        Conservatives managed to blame Bush’s economic disaster on Bill Clinton (for signing a deregulation bill sponsored and presented by 3 prominent Republicans) and Obama. Their line with Obama was “well he’s president now, it’s his responsibility!!” and accused him of tanking the economy, as if it makes ANY sense. Meanwhile you have Trump saying “I don’t take accountability for anything” and the same people think he’s great. Trump claimed the economy under him was a ‘disaster’ because of Obama, nothing to do with Trump, yet also recently tried to take credit for low unemployment and rising wages under Biden. Massive inflation caused by Trump’s policies goes uncommented upon, of course. Or in conservative world, same shit as Obama - “the BIDEN economy!!”. Republicans manage to take credit for anything positive and blame anything negative on Democrats even when it has nothing to do with facts, logic or reality. A real “heads I win tails you lose” line of bullshit. It’s a trait of narcissism.

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          Massive inflation caused by Trump’s policies goes uncommented upon,

          well put! we need to switch the narrative on this - price gouging and billionaires becoming massively richer are happening thanks to republican policy, we need to make them own it.

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        People also forget Obama’s administration had to meet with and coordinate a plan for the Great Recession with the prior Administration before Inauguration Day because it was that bad and they didn’t know what to do.

        Obama literally got a headstart because of how screwed we were after W.

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          remember how dark it got just wondering what would be left of the economy after so many failures? And Obama came in and set things right. But he wore a tan suit, the crime of the century.

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      Which states and political groups do you think were behind legalizing weed in the first place? I’ll give you a hint… it wasn’t conservatives in Alabama.