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Capitalists would like you to believe that liberalism is the left-most edge of the economic spectrum, precisely because it is the left-most point on the spectrum that doesn’t threaten their power.
True leftism threatens the power of capitalists. Liberalism is not leftism.

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      1 year ago

      Absolutely. Billionaires are a scourge. (And millionaires) Greed is shit.

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        1 year ago

        Indeed! So if liberalism as an ideology, wants to keep billionaires, don’t you think it’s a little counter to that logic to say liberals and leftists need to come together and not dismantle the primary driver of fascism?

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          I don’t see liberalism as wanting to keep billionaires. Perhaps that was the case 20 years ago, but not anymore. Making them pay up is a tricky thing to do, but that imo is where we need to start.

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              1 year ago

              Yes. There have been some recent bold moves in the right direction

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            I guess I just don’t see much value in opposing billionaires when liberals want to leave in place the fundamental tool they use to perpetuate their control.

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              1 year ago

              Which fundamental tool are you referring to?

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                1 year ago

                Private wealth that enriches an ownership class to a much greater degree than obtainable through working.

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                  1 year ago

                  I already answered that a few posts ago. I’m here in good faith looking to find real solutions. We have a lot of power to change things with our actions as individuals as well. Boycotts work. Simple things can go a long way if people organize and spread the word. For example, we can kill the google chrome browser if folks are serious. This would likely also kill alphabet as an entity.

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                    I am here in good faith too, I just don’t think I share your belief that capitalism can be brought to heel when it has almost unfettered power and every incentive in it is towards the sort of system we have now. And that transferring that weight to an entire populous of ethical consumers just doesn’t bare fruit.