• Optional@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    So they’re sending the trillions in funding back? Cool.

    I hear there are some teachers who need a raise.

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      8 months ago

      If only this also meant that the US would stop sending funds. I’m sick of spending my tax dollars on genocide.

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    8 months ago

    Since when is calling for a cease fire such a sticking point.

    Fuk just stop killing people. Let them have their ports back, stop the blockade, give them access the travel between both parts of their land.

    Stop stealing land and building settlements… And especially stop pre selling the beach front land before the dead bodies are even cold

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      8 months ago

      We didn’t even call for it at the UN, we simply did not call against it.

      Fuck it, we ought to tell Bibi that his people have to come here to pick up their blank checks instead of wiring the money directly.

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    8 months ago

    As I understand it, it’s not even a real permanent ceasefire. It’s just for Ramadan, i.e. about two weeks. That being said if even such a middling resolution drives the US and Israel further apart maybe it’s more useful in practice than it is on paper.

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      8 months ago

      And it includes a provision demanding Hamas release the hostages. The resolution is pretty good for Israel in general. Netanyahu’s problem is that he doesn’t want to recognize the UN’s authority or the legitimacy of international law in general.

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    8 months ago

    They seem to continually misunderstand the relationship between our two countries. They weren’t coming here as a favor to us, they were coming to America to petition for something we would accept to maintain their arsenal of family-eliminator bombs and collateral-enhancing tank shells.

    But who am I kidding, Israel is daddy-America’s spoiled brat and we’ll always find a way to excuse their actions. But it would be nice if they at least recognized that they’re a fucking client state and carry out the appropriate motions.

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      8 months ago

      Israel is America’s spoiled, entitled child who wrecks the local McDonald’s and the parent threatens the workers with a gun for telling their child to stop.

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    8 months ago

    I’m pretty sure Biden is being coy here.

    A good chunk of democrats still support Israel, but not so much that they’ll count it against Biden if Bibi just keeps making enough of an ass of himself that it just happens to entrench backing Israel no matter what as a Republicans only issue.

    Especially with how most American jews do not and have not supported Israel since its inception, (something Israelis and American Zionists are still pissed about since it black marked the central thesis of Israel’s whole reason for existing)

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      most American jews do not and have not supported Israel since its inception

      This is something I wish more people understood. While most American Jews do consider Israel important to them, it’s generally a broad cultural connection to the Levant. A minority of American Jews back the Israeli government, the apartheid they impose, or the violence they bring to Palestinians.

      Similarly to how most American Muslims consider their ancestral homelands to be important to them, in addition to SA/Mecca, while not generally supporting the oppressive governments associated with those places.

      Even many self-proclaimed American Zionists tend to define Zionism as merely agreeing with Israel’s right to exist, and aren’t endorsing the current wave of oppression against Gaza and the West Bank. Imho these people don’t know enough about what Zionism really is, but that’s more ignorance than malice.

      America’s allegiance to Israel is less about what American Jews want, and more about what Israeli lobbyists want.

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    8 months ago

    Awww, no field trip for Israel /s

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    I am genuinely surprised that the US only abstained, not vetoed, this resolution. Something like the past 40 or 50 similar resolutions to help the Palestinian victims of war and occupation were all vetoed by the US over the past 30 or so years. I wonder if this might actually be the first such resolution not vetoed by the US in… I don’t even know how long.

    It is just so typical of a fascist state like the US what they do at the UN, where they talk big about upholding and enforcing international law, but then at every opportunity the US simply excepts itself (and Israel) from the law. They take exception by vetoing every single UN resolution ever passed toward the peaceful coexistence of ethnic Jews and Palestinians, and so the US keeps this White Supremacist project that is Israel to commit crimes against humanity continuously for decades, to such a severe degree that it spirals into a full-on genocide.

    Now, finally, the US does something to NOT overtly support White Supremacist genocide. That amazes me.

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      I wonder if this might actually be the first

      The US voted in favor of a ceasefire three days ago, which was vetoed by China and Russia.

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        One that the US wrote, that Russia and China and Algeria criticized for passive wording. Probably petty on their end, but the US has shot down like 30 ceasefire resolutions up to this point and we just HAVE to be the ones to write the winner? Fuck’s sake.

        Oh and they didn’t like that it didn’t have any condemnation of Israel’s planned invasion of rafah, to which the US ambassador replied “DO YOU CONDEMN HAMAS?”