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    Frankly, the most ideologically inconsistent part of this attack is that the attackers ran away instead of dying and being martyred. That’s not in line with ISIS and much more in line with self-radicalized individuals such as in the Boston Marathon bombings.

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      Weirdest ISIS attack in a while for sure. The Iranian attack was via suicide bombers, which is at least ideologically consistent.

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      Is that actually inconsistent with ISIS tactics? They’ve been fighting Russia in Syria. Suicide attacks may just not be in vogue with how they fight. I’m not talking from experience, just questioning your assumption that past patterns still hold.

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    The man says that before committing Friday’s atrocity, he had been to Türkiye. When asked what he did at the Crocus City concert venue on Friday evening, he replied: “I shot down… people.” The suspect added that he had committed the crime “for money,” detailing that he had been promised 500,000 rubles ($5,418).

    The alleged perpetrator claimed that half the sum had already been transferred to his debit card.

    The man also said that the curators, whom he supposedly does not know personally, had contacted him via Telegram messaging app, and arranged an arms cache for the assailants.

    The man describes how an acquaintance who he’d befriended on Telegram “ten to twelve days ago” had purchased a car, presumably with a view to using it as a taxi.

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      detailing that he had been promised 500,000 rubles ($5,418).

      Fuck me, this really hammers home that first world privilege. More than that amount of USD hits my checking account each month in my direct wages. This guy knew what would happen to him when he was caught then decided that risking misery in Siberia before being executed was worth less than a month of my take home pay. I mean i get that some level of radicalization is involved here, but still what the fuck.

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        The attackers are supposedly Tajik. USD5418 is at least 2 years of work there.

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          Even if I made $100,000USD a year I’m not sure I would agree to massacre a hundred people for $200k.

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            I’d assume, with the numbers you gave, you’re quite comfortable in life. What if your life was constant struggle with poverty? Not sure how to get food for your kids tomorrow? You get desperate

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    The comments on that article are terrifying. There are people saying things like he and his family should be hanged.

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      It’s a video. The video deserves to be evaluated on it’s own merits (or lack thereof).

      The “evidence” picked up by Western news agencies doesn’t really hold water. I spent some effort debunking it in another comment: these are some really unradicalized radical Islamic extremists.

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        It’s a video. The video deserves to be evaluated on it’s own merits

        Are part of those merits on which it should be analysed who released it?

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          Your claim is that Russia can’t or won’t adequate investigate a terrorist attack on Russian soil?

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              Have you read that article? The sources claiming it are all mainstream media sources, and the sources discrediting it are all academic articles.

              It wouldn’t be the first time that mainstream media and academia have diverged on a subject.

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                The sources claiming it are all mainstream media sources

                The sources you reference are Russian state media.

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                  For the claim that Russia committed a terrorist attack on its own soil? That’s a claim you’re making.

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      Wow! A Russian news story would use a Russian source! Who would have guessed!!

      Any more insightful revelations you’d like to show to the class, feddit de?

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      Their extraction route was through Ukraine to Afghanistan. This is rather publicly acknowledged.

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    Is that what Russia says a guy they say carried out the attack and at whom they’ve pointed guns says?

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      Here’s my question for you: in what event would you trust the words of a terrorist pursuing martyrdom?

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          Your claim is that… By questioning why ISIS is attacking Russia and Iran instead of Israel, which is literally denying Muslims access to Al-Aqsa Mosque, that I’m claiming ISIS is an arm of US foreign policy?

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            So what are you implying?

            Sure seems like you’re claiming the US is directing ISIS in the linked post and the one to which I am replying.

            All while believing Russian claims that quite conveniently let’s Russia pin blame for an attack ISIS claimed credit for on anyone they want.

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              You can believe whatever you want, but it doesn’t make things more or less true.