• ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.comEnglish
    60·
    3 months ago

    Policy makers: “Why won’t they have babies?!? We need more babies the whole system will collapse! We must urgently do something! But what? What ever should we do??? We’ve tried EVERYTHING! We even give them straight cash if they have a kid! This is the greatest mystery of our time!”

    The population in nearly perfect unanimous voice: “Work life balance is shit and we can’t afford to have kids, neither time wise nor monetarily”

    Policy makers: “Such an enigma, truly so mysterious, woe is us, evil evil selfish young people that don’t have kids!”

    …

    • answersplease77@lemmy.world
      26·
      3 months ago

      korea has one of the highest suicide rates in the world. It’s not worth to bring a soul to experience this misery we can hardly endure.

      • ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.comEnglish
        3·
        3 months ago

        Highest among prosperous nations sure, but if we look to the whole world Korea does not have close to the highest rates of suicide.

    • IninewCrowEnglish
      8·
      3 months ago

      Policy makers: … come on! … we need your children to replace you and your slave wages to keep our investors wealthy.

    • saltesc@lemmy.world
      7·
      3 months ago

      Meh. After 10 years I finally got married to my partner. Not because we ever planned to or cared, but because older family wanted to put money in for it. So as far as we were concerned, we had an awesome party with a brief annoying document signing in it. Would’ve rather we got to use the money on something that actually mattered though.

      I don’t even remember what date the wedding anniversary is. Some time in October. March 6 is the real anniversary of our first date and that’s the only one we care about.

      • otp@sh.itjust.works
        202·
        3 months ago

        “Less” is usually for non-countable objects, while “fewer” is for countable.

        “Less slime” vs. “Fewer bees”

        • Rodeo
          131·
          3 months ago

          The comparison in this case is operating on the word half, not on the subject of the sentence:

          Only half want to get married, even less [than half] want kids.

          • fireweed@lemmy.world
            121·
            3 months ago

            It could actually go either way, based on the title:

            Only half of South Koreans willing to marry; even less [than half] want kids

            Or

            Only half of South Koreans willing to marry; even fewer [South Koreans] want kids

            I’m inclined to lean toward the second. “Even less than half” sounds a lot clunkier than “even fewer South Koreans,” so it’s not surprising other readers assumed the latter.

  • Windex007@lemmy.world
    15·
    3 months ago

    I wish the article explained why people were against getting married? Like, kids, as a father, I get it.

    But for marriage, is it just seen as an unnecessary formality? Is it about an aversion to long term relationships? Is there a cultural perception that you must have kids if you get married and people want to avoid a married-no-children stigma?

    • otp@sh.itjust.works
      25·
      3 months ago

      I believe it’s a situation where the men tend to want traditional stay-at-home wives to raise their kids, but the women either want to work, or the men don’t make enough to support a stay-at-home wife and raise a kid on their single income (because it can be really expensive relative to wages).

      I’ve read that there’s a lot of… misogyny/anti-feminism movement stuff going on in Korea these days.

      • Cowbee@lemmy.ml
        9·
        3 months ago

        There’s an absolute ton of anti-feminism, to the point where companies actively fire feminists if there’s a stink raised and make statements that the company doesn’t share feminist views. Yes, it’s that fucked.

    • Fosheze@lemmy.worldEnglish
      82·
      3 months ago

      Not south korean but for me marriage just seems weird. Why should the government be involved at all in my relationship? Why would I do a bunch of paperwork and pay money to get a document that offers very few benefits and could one day become a pain in the ass if my partner and I grow apart for some reason?

      If a partner cares about marriage there is nothing keeping me from swapping rings with them and doing a ceremony but I see no reason to get the government involved.

      • zout@fedia.io
        51·
        3 months ago

        Doesn’t it give certain benefits? In the Netherlands there is some tax benefit, custody for the children is easier to arange (both in divorce and if a mother dies before the children are 18) and a bunch of other stuff.

    • WalnutLum@lemmy.ml
      2·
      3 months ago

      Marriage in Korea is a much “heavier” prospect in regards to expectations of mutual support and combining resources, as well as purchasing a house and stuff.

      If you’re not planning on doing any of that there’s no reason to get married, even if you’re not planning on dating anyone else but your current partner.

      Plus just dating in Korea is hard. I know multiple people who only see their significant other maybe once every few months. Dating and married

    • lazylion_ca
      1·
      3 months ago

      I’m not Korean. Can someone list a single benefit to being married in this modern age that isnt just a counter to a cultural or legal failing? ie: being allowed to visit your s/o in the hospital.

  • blindsight@beehaw.org
    111·
    3 months ago

    Huge caveat: they only surveyed unmarried 18-49 year olds. Three huge problems are obvious:

    1. Unmarried people are more likely to want to remain unmarried
    2. People who are past typical marrying age are less likely to want to get married
    3. People who are past peak child rearing ages are less likely to want children

    So, no. The headline is inaccurate. If we only survey single 18-49 y.o.s then of course we’ll get higher numbers of people who want to remain unmarried.

    Still an interesting result, but very different from the clickbait headline.