• Trump “will not give a penny” more to Ukraine if he becomes president, Hungary’s prime minister said.
  • That’s how Trump plans to end the war, Viktor Orbán, who met Trump at Mar-a-Lago, said.
  • The Trump campaign has not said whether the pair discussed Ukraine during the visit.
  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    I just miss the era when the vast majority of Americans were on the same page regarding potentially dangerous geopolitical crap. Politics used to end at the water’s edge for the most part, but not anymore.

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      Everyone now just chooses a “side” and blindly defends it, no matter how wrong it is. There is zero room for nuance. It’s exhausting to talk to people like Wintermute who will ignore all evidence that is contrary to their opinions and will resort to bad faith arguments every single time. And then blindly accuse othet people of doing the same when called out.

      Politics have gone to hell and we’re all worse off for it.

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        10 months ago

        Don’t you fucking “both sides” this shit. The GOP has gone to hell, Democrats are scrabbling for a handhold so we don’t all get dragged down with em.

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          10 months ago

          I’m not blaming both sides here. I’m pointing out Wintermute’s behaviour, which is blindly defending their side despite all evidence that they’re wrong. I’m very, VERY well aware of how fucked the Republicans are and I’m not pretending the Democrats are remotely the same. My point is, an entire portion of the populace (that being the right wing) has shut themselves off to reality and nothing will change their mind.

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            My point is name and shame the Republicans, don’t use a euphemism line “an entire portion of the populace” because that enables the both sides bullshit

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                  No worries! If you were talking to an actual “Both sides” idiot then I’d say it’s warranted lol.