• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    9 months ago

    Andor was amazing. I love star wars, there was a lot of iffy stuff, Mando was pretty good, but damn did Andor knock it out of the park.

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      Andor is kind of depressing, in that it showed what a truly quality Star Wars series could look like, that you can actually make adult/decent Star Wars content, and it made everything else Disney has put out look stupid (apart from Rogue One… huh, weird coincidence). Luthen’s monologue stands out as one of the best pieces of Star Wars content from the entire franchise, just brilliant and well delivered. Meanwhile, we’ve been getting trash, just absolute drivel from the rest of their offerings that shows how little Disney respects its audience. Mando had some moments early on, but that last season was rough and every other SW series they’ve put out has just made me hate every moment of it. Just so much bad writing, it’s insulting.

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        When Mando deviated too much from the space spaghetti Western, quality really went down the drain.

        I loved Andor’s WW2 spy thriller take on Star Wars. More serious, adult and no space wizards.

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        Gonna disagree with you about the quality of Mando; it’s just an incredibly different type of show. I feel the exact opposite of you: I thought the first season was meh until the end, and the show has continued to get better from there (with some individual episodes that were crap).

        For the record, Andor is by far my favorite piece of contemporary Star Wars media. It’s not even close.

        What I’m saying is, not every show or movie has to be well received by every fan.

        Hell, I even enjoyed Obi-Wan for what it was. A sad waste of potential? Totally. But some of the things it set out to do were done well (specifically, showing Obi-Wan’s state of mind during that time period)

        I don’t expect Mando to press the same emotional buttons as Andor, and I don’t expect Andor to make me go “whoaaaaa awesome lightsaber duel!” the way Ahsoka did. Let them be different. We don’t have to tear down anything that doesn’t fit our image of the perfect star wars show

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      I agree with you. Except for Boba Fett. They made a bounty Hunter into an anti-mafia protagonist. This dude was out to kill Luke Skywalker and all of a sudden he’s a good guy because he spent some time in the desert with the people who also wanted to kill Luke Skywalker.

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      Totally agree! I When people mention Andor I immediately think of the monologues rather than any of the action sequences. I think that tells how good the writing was.

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      I really wished we got more stuff like Andor, Rogue One, and Knights of The Old Republic II that explore more of the universe outside of “here’s a bunch of themed planets with wacky CGI aliens”.

      Andor and Rogue One are really good at showing what it’s like to actually be a Rebel and live in a universe being dictated by an empire, while KOTOR 2 was a really cool look at the metanarrative of the Jedi, the Sith, and the Force as a whole.

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        Exactly, it was hard and gritty. I thought they did an amazing job, the movies make it feel so binary, we’re good they’re bad. Andor shows the grey, the actual living under the empire, what it actually means. I deseprately hope they see the numbers and see that we want more “grown up” star wars.

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      9 months ago

      I have a friend who worked on the Mandalorian as a make-up artist. I was so jealous when I found out. I believe she did the Xi’an character, if I remember correctly.

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      Lol I mean it’s literally just having a new addition to it and while many will say it’s being killed, the amount of content they have added so far in Rebirth has been insane. I have friends who will probably hate it, but it’s absolutely beautiful to me and a surprise at every step.

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          I never got far at all in 16, but not because I didn’t enjoy it. I just got stuck in a rut last summer and stopped gaming entirely for a couple months and just didn’t pick it up again. Maybe when I finish Rebirth in another 100 hours I’ll jump back to that lol.

          6 though? Have loved that one for a very long time though I may have taken longer to finish it than most anyone ever. Way back when it released as FF3 on SNES, a friend bought it and played for a short while but let me borrow it. I played the hell out of it and had something like 80 hours into it (not sure if I just sucked or idled a lot, don’t ask haha). I had made it to right before the final dungeon. But then my friend wanted it back and I said sure, with the intent of finishing it at his house the next time I spent the weekend there gaming, which was common.

          Right after I gave it back, his cousin wanted to give it a try and the very first thing he did was delete my save. I watched him do it and just had no words. He didn’t realize I hadn’t finished and wasn’t trying to be an ass, but it just crushed me.

          I never went back to play it again until the 2015 release on Steam. Played it on probably 2016. So a minimum 21 years, maybe 22. Lol

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      The funny thing about this one is there’s a big chunk of the series faithful that want it milked more, just in a more nostalgic way.

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    9 months ago

    This is completely my opinion but I feel like Stellaris has milked the fuck out of those DLCs, but they’re also good lol

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    Makita. They put out a fucking tool for everything and when you’re looking at them you’re kinda like “that’s a bit stupid I can just put a bit extra effort in and do it with the tools I have” but then you see that tool that perfectly simplifies something you do and you’re like “ok I need this it make my life so easy” and it does.

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      I suppose if you really like tools, Makita counts as an entertainment franchise.

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    The Anno series. They released 7 games since 1998, Anno 1800 as the most recent one had 3 season passes, and it’s considered by many to be the best or at least 2nd best in the series.

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      Claiming that the modern Frasier reboot has anything to do with Cheers is nothing short of blasphemy.

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        Guardians 3 was good.

        Mostly because they weren’t trying to shoehorn future movie plot setups into it.

        On that note, the Holiday Special was also pretty good.

        Shang-Chi wasn’t a bad movie… Not one I’m likely to rewatch much, but a good popcorn movie…

        Other than that, no Marvel has started falling into producer interference mode, where every movie must explicitly set up the next, even if they don’t have a full plan for what’s next.

        They’ve lost sight of the key to their success; telling a tight, self-contained story made by people who love the characters.

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          I absolutely detest the Flanderization of Drax and Thor. I appreciate moments of comedy, but I didn’t come to watch Abbot and Costello.

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    Despite what a subset of its fans say - Star Trek is still putting out decent content, on average. We get 10 episode seasons now and the majority of it is fun adventures and when it tries to do social commentary it never takes as hard line as it used to. But at least in the shorter seasons there’s less chance of a Threshold or a Subrosa. Maybe its just me but I could watch Lower Decks on rotation

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      Yeah that sunset is small.

      Strange New Worlds has been pretty damn good and a return to form. Though you could say Season 2 went a little too hard with all the genre swapping per episode. I hope they tone it down and do a bit more of the anomaly of the week kind of thing in season 3

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    One Piece. The worldbuilding has yet to crash down on itself after 25 years.

    Genshin Impact. Yes, it’s gacha, but there’s mountains of content you can play without spending a dime, and they continously expand both content and quality-of-life factors.

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    I still enjoy Pokemon. They deserve the criticism they get but I grew up with it and I enjoy monster battling games.

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      Yeah I’ve enjoyed all the Pokemon games in the last decade (I also dropped over 100 hours in Palworld).

      If you listen to the internet, however, we’re apparently what’s wrong with Pokemon, because we’re not allowed to enjoy it unless it’s perfect and lives up to to everyone else’s very specific expectations, but the sales figures don’t lie, there are certainly more than dozens of us!

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        You can enjoy it, but you’re insane if you don’t see a marked drop in quality from installation to installation in terms of map design, content, sound design and more. How many times are they going to reuse Mega Evolution with a new coat of paint instead of just keeping it already working?

        Why do they prevent you from transferring Pokemon into newer generations? It’s not because they don’t have the space for the information. They’re saving money by not having to spend dev hours remodeling all the older Pokemon to fit the new art style or graphic threshold.

        All in all, given the profits, they could put a lot more effort into making the experience more fun.

        Here’s a decent breakdown of the issues between generations: (Warning: The presentation leaves something to be desired but the crux of the argument is sound.)

        https://youtu.be/VXU6frnD9WA?si=PietbldeiCzevPml

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    Mario. Also Zelda

    It’s been milked endlessly but definitely not disrespected a la Sonic. You know when you pick up one of these you’re in for a good time. It’s the kind of reputation Nintendo knows it relies on.

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    Super Mario. It’s been milked for what it’s worth and more, but whenever there’s a new Mario game you just know it’s going to be good.