With, out, fail…

Also anyone got a new job available?

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    “I think you’re sharing the wrong screen, we just see an Amazon checkout page.”

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      There was a really Fun pregnant pause, the one time I accidentally shared the wrong monitor, and everyone on that work project got to see my search results for sarcoidosis. Scary thing that I do not have but was researching while waiting for test results.

      I do find it interesting that not a single soul said anything to me about it later.

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      That’s an important lesson from the early days of the pandemic: assume you’ll get zero reaction from the group, so set up your questions/requests/etc. in such a way that a non-response gives you the answer you want.

      “Okay I’m getting ready to start here, speak up if you can’t see my screen.”

      “I’m setting our target completion date for next Thursday. Anyone have any issues meeting that deadline?”

      “This new wrinkle seems like something that is mostly within the area of expertise of Bob’s team, so I’m going to ask that they resolve it before our next meeting. Bob, do you have any issues with adding that to your list?”

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        Only thing I do differently is throw that “Bob” at the start of the phrase instead of the end. Hearing your name triggers your brain to focus, so start with "Bob, let me know if you have an issue with this… Since XYZ is in your team’s area of expertise I’m asking that you resolve it by… "

        Saves a lot of time and embarrassment on the “sorry, I was multitasking, can you repeat that?”

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          Oh god this. The number of times somebody says my name after the end of a long monologue is too damn high.

          Meetings are times when we’re doing double work—sitting on the meeting, and actually doing stuff. Don’t expect me to give you my full attention, you know full well that I’m working on things more important than you.

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        “Let me know if you can’t see my screen or hear me, or if I haven’t joined the call, or if you need me to be somewhere else than in this small cabin with no internet, electricity or running water a four days’ hike from the nearest trailhead”

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    I hate it so much. I always say “I just assume you all see my screen. As you can see…”. Screen sharing works in what? 99% of cases? We do not need to ask if everyone can see my screen and let 1-10 people answer that stupid question every time. The modus operandi is that this software works in the vast majority of cases and the recipients just need to know that I started sharing my screen and that it will in 99% of cases work just fine. Let them speak up for the 1% of times where it does not work.

    I am also a big fan of ending my emails with “A response is not needed”. Stop sending me replies with those stupid one line emails “Thank you so much for sending me what I asked you for… bla bla”. Not every emails needs a response.

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      Screen sharing works in what? 99% of cases?

      It works 95% of the time but it often takes 10+ seconds until everyone can see the screen.

      I get your point, but teams is such a broken mess that I think the question is legitimate. Half the time it doesn’t even register my microphone even if Windows doesn’t have a problem with it.

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          That’s the exact opposite of what I’ve read in most linux threads on here. Most people seem to complain about teams not working at all under Linux.

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          My whole dev group uses Linux and Teams is a hot mess for us. We have to run the PWA through Chrome to get things to work and even then it’s hit or miss.

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          Wait, what? I thought they killed Teams for Linux a few years back. I’ve been piping my Webcam to a Windows VM just so I can run Teams and Outlook.

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              Ooh, that’s a good suggestion to try, too! My specific problem with teams in the browser is the feedback cancelation bits. When I am unmuted, the people I’m chatting with hear themselves echoed. Using the full teams app in a windows VM with my webcam piped to the windows VM works fine. I’ll try the AUR teams first, but if that doesn’t work I’ll look into waydroid, too. Thanks!

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              Nice! I’ll give it a try. I tried the web version through Firefox and it was unusable. I was able to join a meeting, but as soon as I turned on my mic, my opponents freaked out, saying their sounds were echoing back to them. Firefox + web teams was not doing any noise cancellation between speakers and mic.

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          I tried it about 2 years ago and it was a fucking omnishambles on Linux. I presume it has improved since then…

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        Honestly, Teams works pretty much flawlessly for me. It’s a resource hog and some actions (like switching between tabs) are inexcusably slow, but it works pretty well 99% of the time.

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          Maybe it’s because I have a pretty beefy work laptop but I rarely have issues with Teams. I dread Zoom calls, though. The video quality seems worse and whatever noise reduction Teams has doesn’t seem to exist on Zoom so it sounds bad, too. Not to mention the ugly interface

          That said I’ll take Zoom over webex any day. Thankfully Cisco is the only company I work with who uses it… And we make them use Teams when we host there meeting

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            It’s funny, I’ve very recently had pretty much the opposite experiences with the Teams/Zoom reliability.

            I had and interview project, and and in about 50% (around 15 out of 29-31, something like that) of the cases Teams calls failed pretty much in the beginning due to some technical problem, almost always the problems coming from the other end, on 1 case something unexplainably went to shit on my end (suddenly no sound or video), and I think of my self being pretty tech savvy on the user side. We had to fall back to phone calls for those “It’s just Teams, no problems, I understand” cases.

            In the Zoom calls, 5/5 worked without issues.

            Wonder why this is such recurring issue. I mean, havent Microsoft poured hundreds of millions of euro/dollars into the app/infrastructure? Where is the money going?

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              Could it be the way the system was commissioned? My company designs and sells conferencing systems so I’m 100% confident it’s been configured correctly. When we “take” clients from other companies, we routinely find issues.

              I don’t work on the commissioning/programming side of things (I’m in pre-install system design) so I can’t speak to the details. I just read the project close out reports sometimes

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        To acknowledge that they read it. Probably because that is what they want to see people do with their emails.

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        Outlook has a little emoji response feature. We seem to have taken to dropping a thumbs up for confirmation, heart for thank you, laugh when joke happens, etc. Works great

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    You forgot the intro: Hello, hello, hello, can everybody hear me? Is everybody there?

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      It’s like a Digital Seance.

      Tom, Are you with us?

      Can you hear us Tom?

      Make a sound if you can hear us.

      We can’t see you. Can you hear us?

      Is anyone with us right now?

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      Steven?

      Yes?

      This is Clem Fandango.

      I know who you are.

      Can you hear me?

      YES I CAN HEAR YOU CLEM FANDANGO

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      And the borg hivemind imitation when everyone has to greet everyone joining and 200 people keep saying hello in a way too happy manner for 5min.

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    In this day and age, surely someone can put this into a website and play the melody?

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    It’s missing the awkward pause where nobody can speak for “everyone”, so everyone is silent.

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    The length of the notes is proportional to how bad the UX is to get it going.