Can I claim my “babies” as dependents on my taxes, hypothetically?
Yes, however, if you or your partner menstruates, it’s manslaughter.
Is it only the eggs that count as babies or sperm as well?
If they do then I may be one of the biggest mass murderers in historyI think the ruling covers embryos, so a fertilized egg.
Either on their own are zygotes, so don’t count as citizens or whatever the fuck is going on in Alabama.
A zygote is a fertilized egg from fertilization until it splits enough. The egg and sperm cells are gametes.
Gamete! That’s the word I was looking for, thanks.
I haven’t done much killing in the last 10 years or so, but when I was a teenager I slaughtered millions multiple times a day and stuffed them into small sacks and buried them in the trash. My drive to kill has slowed down significantly.
My mom thought the washing machine was eating those little sacks.
She knew.
Haha, I’m sure she did.
My son, gross little bastard, he’d stuff them in places he expected no one to look. Like, bud, we gonna clean that far flung corner eventually.
I had to have a talk with him. You gonna murder millions? You gotta do it like Dennis Nilsen. If you can’t do it like Nilsen, you at least need to do like your old man and put that nasty shit in the trash. :p
Fertilized eggs, in any stage of development or form.
I don’t know, there’s a lot of competition out there if you’re right. You’ve got around 4 billion competitors.
If you can find a way to oppress women with the rebate, you’ll have their support.
Up next: Alabama now arguing they should have 4,000 electoral votes.
So most eggs are unfertilized embryos, which in mammals is what happens during menstruation. That said, it’s not even a stretch at this point to think that conservatives might start saying that menstruation is immoral or whatever for this same reason.
Might?
Menstruation is not the result of an unfertilized egg though. It’s there to waste potentially unhealthy embryo’s and make conception less likely to succeed. The egg is gone before menstuation occurs.
It’s there to waste potentially unhealthy embryo’s
Ah, so it is murder, according to Alabama law…
Fair enough. They clearly don’t care about women risking their lives to deliver a stillborn anyway!
unfertilized embryos
What are you talking about? “Unfertilised embryo” is an oxymoron. An unfertilised egg isn’t an embryo
Embryo (noun)
an unborn or unhatched offspring in the process of development, in particular a human offspring during the period from approximately the second to the eighth week after fertilization (after which it is usually termed a fetus).
But I agree with the fact conservatives really do not care and would ban menstruation if possible.
The GOP would never agree to the parallel because the brown ones cost more.
Nah. Most conservatives I know are in support of the for profit prison system. They need eggs of all colors to grow up poor, uneducated and limited choice but to commit crimes.
They probably only cost more because that money goes to Big Egg while they get minimum yolk.
The brown ones cost more to raise due to their inherent behavior and lack of rooster figure.
i hate my state so fucking much
If it makes you feel any better, you’re not the only one that hates their state, over the laws and regulations after the overturning of Roe V. Wade.
“Behold, a chicken!”
–Diogenes, probably.
“Get out of my fucking barrel you filthy pleb” - Diogenes
What I don’t understand is; do all girls/women receive child payments from birth to ~60
If they have a period are they liable for murder?
Wait a minute Are you telling me that Alabama thinks that unfertilized eggs are viable humans? or is OP and everybody in this comment section just being extra silly to mock Alabama’s latest anti-abortion shenanigans?
technically, if one were to follow the logic of the ruling they are mocking, yes, Alabama believe that
Isn’t it just about actually fertilised eggs?
Ie “after conception”.
It’s still just as fucking dumb and wrong, but…
Yes. I know.
I’m pointing out that eggs aren’t embryos.
Embryos are what eggs and sperm become after conception (and a few other stages).
The eggs you buy from a store aren’t or could never become embryos of any species, because they’re unfertilised.
Prior to previous rulings fetuses weren’t children
Prior to this ruling embryos weren’t children
The question is how long until the next ruling pushes the definition of child back further
Yes, it is. And it’s fucking terrifying.
But you can’t really push it much further unless you plan to prosecute wet dreams as genocide.
The rights argument has — for as long as I remember — been “life begins at conception”, which is why it can be applied to frozen embryos, because conception has happened. (Despite that being dizzyingly stupid, it still has a miniscule amount of shitty logic behind it.)
So despite me knowing the right is absolutely nuts and has no logic to their “logic” at all, I don’t see any argument being possible for “gametes are people”.
Because then ovulation would be murder without conception and even a successful conception would mean the man is a mass murderer, as hundreds of millions of sperm would “die” from not being the one that made it.
I guess I’ll go eat some scrambled children (by Alabama’s definition)
Unfortunately you are going to need to eat a lot. Chicken eggs are usually not fertilized and therefore could never become a life. They breed chickens separately. So if chicken were humans, the cartons of eggs at the store would not be considered children in Alabama.
They just determined that unfertilized eggs are children. By their logic, I’m eating chicken. I just made it ridiculous to show the massive flaw in their logic.
“Behold, a man”
I mean, correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure they ruled that frozen embryos are children.
Not that unfertilised eggs are.
Also, it really doesn’t need any exaggeration. It’s very obviously ridiculous even without the chicken jokes.
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People mad alabama saying the truth :(
internet try not to make the obligatory low-effort <animal ovum, semen, menstruation> jokes 0.0056ms after yet more precedent for women’s rights being stripped is established. (hard, impossible, sex ed is for normies, we’re not even going to try let’s be honest.)
Everyone remember: The last thing you want to do in a memes community is try to be funny.
i just think comparing human women to chickens (adjacently) is gross but clearly i am in the minority so ill let it be :)
You do know Betty Bowers is a woman, right? Do you think that was her point or her intention?
Memes are great and all, but we need to not spread misinformation. It’s fertilized eggs specifically that have been called children. Reproductive rights are important, but any time shit gets misconstrued, it’s a chance to be attacked by the right.
Do you live under a rock? The right is going to attack no matter what whether the arguments are correct or not. They don’t care about substance, they only care about aesthetics.
“A chance” lmao. Welcome to politics 2024.
(again, OP post is a cheap joke but,)
Disinformation is not just about the ‘right’ attacking, it’s also about disenfranchising the ‘left’. I’m amazed how many times on Reddit I see something that hits the spot of “that’s truly awful” together with “maybe it’s actually true that way”, so I check the source and it’s not at all like that. Now I’m used to it and assume all Reddit/Lemmy political outrage is at least partially misinformation.
(Anyway I don’t aim to learn my politics from Lemmy or Reddit.)
More deeply, do you want a world where lying makes your side win? Or a world where people are honest and willing to learn from the truth? Defending ourselves with dishonesty is cruel to people around us, damages our society, and ultimately undermines ourselves.
Sorry for the rant here, it’s been stewing in me a long time, and will continue to every time I see lies in support of something I care about, or from people I care about.
defending ourselves with dishonesty
You keep losing the plot here. The OP is a meme ridiculing the concept that frozen embryos are children. You don’t need to draw an objectively, 100% philosophically congruent analogy for the meme to work. Plus as a man, it’s not my place to tone police anyone on abortion rights. The Alabama judges that made this decision are a disgrace to the legal profession and to the country.
Do you mean to tell me the egg section of the local Alabama supermarket is not, in fact, an orphanage?
Fucking misinformation gets me every time.
I am not getting it. It’s there any visual aids?
You can get aids in your eyes?
I saw it on the inter-web so it must be true.
Also cancer. But bleach may help with that.
Doesn’t really matter because I can see what direction they’re going. This started off being about abortion of a fetus with Roe being overturned. Now we’re talking about embryos and fertilization. The egg and sperm are only one more step away.
The act of creating that embryo could be the next thing they put into law. I could see the religious extremists wanting sex outside of marriage to be illegal. That sounds crazy to me, but again, that’s what direction this argument is going.
Masturbation will soon be genocide
Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted, god gets quite irate!
From one of the best Monty Python sketches ever, IMHO (but sadly not quite the cultural reference as things like the dead parrot one)
Yeah I get that. I’m gay. They talk about making “sodomy” illegal again. But any time that people take things to extremes that are not true it hurts the people making the correct arguments.
I completely understand wanting to keep the discussion based in logical facts. It can be difficult to do when the other side is always arguing in bad faith. On the flip side, inaccuracies help drive discussions on social media and it got us talking with each other.
There are some fertilized chicken eggs on the market, but most factory farmed are not. This note is for all the folks that didn’t get a proper biology teacher.
Every single one of those eggs was the loving product of a cock and a chick.
No they weren’t.
Look, she may have never met him but you can’t prove it isn’t love. The first day a chicken learns what love is is the first day they start producing eggs. They lay until they truly believe Romeo may have been a liar and they lose their love. A tragic broken heart.
These eggs are unfertilised.
I don’t think you’d like fertilised ones, to be honest. Although it is a delicacy in Asia.
We know they are unfertilized…
Well the guy above didn’t.
He thought chickens have to have sex to be able to lay eggs.
So the Romeo and Juliet references and the discussion of the love life of a chicken must not have given away my sarcasm haha
It also appears FlyingSquid was making jokes as well. “It does for these eggs” was stated in the discussion by them.
It is probably hard for people to pick up in text but is a cultural colloquilism I would say. Like saying “Not with that attitude” to someone who says an individual can’t throw a car over a fence with their bare hands.
This whole thing seems like people took his jokes to seriously and thought of them as trolling.
Ehhhh no? You don’t need a rooster for chickens to lay eggs, AFAIK.
You’re right! My dad has chickens. You definitely don’t need a rooster involved. Laying eggs is not an analogue to giving birth - it’s more like they’re having their period.
You need a rooster to fertilize the egg. An egg without a rooster is just chicken menstruation.
*ovulation
Releasing of an egg is ovulation. Menstruation is shedding of the lining of the uterus in mammals when pregnancy has not occurred.
It’s a little pet peeve of mine when people refer to eggs as “chicken periods.” I get a similar itch when people refer to anything in the crotch area of a female as a vagina lol.
Mad props. I was sure I had the words technically incorrect even if the point was right…thanks for the clarification!
You do for these eggs.
No you don’t.
I know you live in Indiana. There are chicken farms near you. They shred 99.9999% of the males because they aren’t needed for egg production. The roosters are only needed to fertilize the next generation of chickens, which roughly 50% of them will be immediately killed at birth.
Edit: ok you’re trolling. I was wondering, cause normally you’re more educated than that take is.
I wasn’t trolling, I was joking. Cock and a chick? Terms for penis and woman?
Tough crowd in this thread, yeesh.
Eh. If every joke of mine was a success, I wouldn’t have quit doing standup.
Save your new stuff for the second leg of the tour, that’s what I say.
That or make sure they’ve got two for one at the bar.
This. Even if you do take everything seriously and use proper terminology, the far right will find a way to troll you. Don’t let it shape your reality. Acknowledge them for the unproductive trolls they are and carry on with your business without a second thought.
I’m just amused that someone wants us to have legally accurate memes.
To be fair, when the right does this, they end up mocked on “The Right Can’t Meme”.
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Sorry… you want me to stop making you look like a moron?
Ah a troll. Gotcha. Blocked lol
Just stop making us look like the moron you are lol
It’s literally what you said. He is making you look like a moron by posting a meme lol
Lmao bro flyingsquid is like half of lemmy content. They’re pretty intelligent. This is a meme, so they aren’t taking things seriously
