A crowd destroyed a driverless Waymo car in San Francisco::A Waymo car was destroyed in San Francisco as a crowd began vandalizing it and ultimately set the car on fire. Nobody was in the vehicle at the time.

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    9 months ago

    So in your world, planes, trains, and buses pick you up and drop you off at your doorstop? How cute.

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      Nah. Unless you live literally at the station, which happens but is rare, doorsteps are the domain of collect taxis.

      Which btw are the most economical option in rural areas as you don’t have to drive empty buses around all the time. In cities they should be limited to people actually needing them, also open bicycle paths for microcars for people with mobility issues, not everyone wants or needs a powered wheelchair.

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        9 months ago

        This is what I mean, you’ll never get rid of enclosed motorized vehicles for a variety of reasons, and if we’re going to have them around, it would be better if they were self driving and killed fewer people than human drivers.

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            9 months ago

            Those are great but how are you going to deliver goods to people’s homes? Transport furniture? Home Reno materials? Kids + their sports equipment?

            How are you going to get the last mile to a home down a country road in winter with rain, sleet, and snow?

            Yes, we can minimize our usage of cars, but as you scale up the capabilities of a cargo bike you just reinvent the car.

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              Those are great but how are you going to deliver goods to people’s homes? Transport furniture? Home Reno materials? Kids + their sports equipment?

              With trucks, minivans, cargo bikes, and backpacks and hand carts. The first two are commercial vehicles, the last two private, the one in the middle either.

              How are you going to get the last mile to a home down a country road in winter with rain, sleet, and snow?

              With your tractor? Rather pointless to buy a car just for that distance and if you don’t own a tractor what are you doing out there.

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                With trucks, minivans, cargo bikes, and backpacks and hand carts. The first two are commercial vehicles, the last two private, the one in the middle either.

                Cool, regardless of whether they’re commercial or or private, it would still be better if they killed fewer people than they do today.

                With your tractor? Rather pointless to buy a car just for that distance and if you don’t own a tractor what are you doing out there.

                I don’t think you’ve spent much time in the country, most people don’t own tractors. It’s not just farmers as far as the eye can see, they still require a huge community / support system of electricians, mechanics, plumbers, shops and suppliers, entertainment, etc.

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                  Cool, regardless of whether they’re commercial or or private, it would still be better if they killed fewer people than they do today.

                  Then build streets that take pedestrians and cyclists into account and make sure that people don’t have to commute by car. That’s the coffee-drinking mobile-swiping distracted drivers thinking their Tesla can drive for them.

                  It’s not just farmers as far as the eye can see, they still require a huge community / support system of electricians, mechanics, plumbers, shops and suppliers, entertainment, etc.

                  …in a village, which means bus stop in walking distance, not in single home with a five kilometre driveway. Also electricians, mechanics, plumbers, shops and suppliers all have commercial vehicles, entertainment the fuck do you mean? If there’s a cinema in the village chances are the operators live in the same building, if it’s a circus troupe they have wagons because itinerant.

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                    Then build streets that take pedestrians and cyclists into account and make sure that people don’t have to commute by car.

                    Cool beans bro, you can do that, you’ll still have cars for the reasons I listed above. There is literally no city in existence where an elderly person can get to their doctor’s appointment in the middle of snow and rain without a car.

                    …in a village, which means bus stop in walking distance, not in single home with a five kilometre driveway.

                    Lmao. No it doesn’t. You’re not going to have a machine shop or feed supply shop in a village, it’s the size of a lumber yard and not zoned to be in a residential area.

                    Also electricians, mechanics, plumbers, shops and suppliers all have commercial vehicles,

                    Again, what’s your point about commercial vs private. Do you think self driving technology cares? Also that Waymo taxi they trashed is a commercial taxi.

                    entertainment the fuck do you mean? If there’s a cinema in the village chances are the operators live in the same building, if it’s a circus troupe they have wagons because itinerant.

                    Restaurants, theatres, rinks, stadiums, etc. You know, stuff people do for entertainment.

                    Also, lmfao at this specifically:

                    If there’s a cinema in the village chances are the operators live in the same building

                    It’s not 1920 with a projectionist living in an apartment beside the projection room.