person backing up his car exploitable with the following four panels:

  1. person looking ahead. the text below him says, “wow a cool software. let’s check out the community”
  2. screenshot with the text

    Community
    The main place where the community gathers is our Discord server. Feel free to join there to ask questions, help out others, share cool things you created with Typst, or just to chat.

  3. hand on gear shift zoomed in, switching to reverse
  4. person looking behind with the text “nevermind”.
  • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
    14·
    10 months ago

    To which I’m saying anyone who engages with discord in a project space that is silly. Creators and users. Software dev happens elsewhere. Fork it and make it better.

    • thanks_shakey_snake
      4·
      10 months ago

      Fork… what? The software project that you’re trying to get help with? The problem isn’t that you need to change the code, the problem is that you want to be able to leverage the community.

      • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
        15·
        10 months ago

        Oh sorry are you not familiar with GitHub or other branching code managers?

        • thanks_shakey_snake
          2·
          10 months ago

          Haha that’s not the issue, but it’s pretty clear that you’re deliberately misunderstanding at this point.

          • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
            12·
            10 months ago

            I understand it fine. People are intrigued by a useful project, only to find the junk devs run a discord for community engagement, issue tracking, devlog, and so on.

            People feel helpless they they have to engage with discord in this way, because it is shit for that stuff.

            People have no ability to self correct their experience, even though the system has built in features to allow them to improve the project by forking it and raising the standards.

            • thanks_shakey_snake
              2·
              10 months ago

              Great, I knew you could understand if you wanted to (hence the “deliberate” part).

              So… Yes. Exactly. The complaint is about poor choices in the implementation of the project’s community. Not everybody who would want to use the software (e.g. Typst, in this meme) knows how to code at all. Those people are reliant on the community for support, and may choose to avoid a project if the community isn’t good for them. That’s the premise of the meme, and orthogonal to any properties of the version control system.

              Among those who can code, it’s still reasonable that someone might consider the community when evaluating the cost of integrating the project… Especially if they plan to be an end-user of the application.

              It’s great if you grok the source of every project you use and accept the burden of maintaining them yourself in lieu of a good community. That’s really neat. But I don’t think it’s practical for everybody to do that for everything they might want to use… Yes, even though the Fork button is right there.

              • GBU_28@lemm.eeEnglish
                12·
                10 months ago

                So generally people would prefer to complain that improve? Very cool. Just flail and meme

                • thanks_shakey_snake
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  Lol yes, people would often rather avoid getting involved with a piece of software at all (and perhaps complain about it), instead of taking over the burden of developing and supporting it themselves. Kids these days, right?