Masked protesters could soon face arrest, says Home Office
www.theguardian.com
Rights groups say proposed police powers for England and Wales are pandering to ‘culture war nonsense’

"Protesters who wear masks could face arrest, up to a month in jail and a £1,000 fine under proposed measures that human rights campaigners claim are pandering to “culture war nonsense”.

Police in England and Wales will be given the power to arrest people if they are wearing face coverings at specific demonstrations, the Home Office has said."

Been a bad 18 months or so for privacy in the UK. Online Safety Bill passed, the right to take strike action curtailed, people in receipt of benefits (including disabled people) will soon (as from 2025) have their bank accounts open to the government, the right to protest curtailed and now this.

  • admiralteal@kbin.social
    304·
    10 months ago

    Why? Conservatism is about preserving traditional values and traditional power structures not the economy.

    If you actually care about the economy that means you care about progressing a more effective and efficient state for the benefit of the people. Afraid that makes you a progressive which the conservatives assure us they aren’t.

    • RobotToaster@mander.xyz
      45·
      10 months ago

      Conservatism is about preserving the status quo. (As opposed to reactionaries that want to restore the status quo ante)

      • njm1314@lemmy.world
        72·
        10 months ago

        Not necessarily the current status quo though. Just the status quo where they have the most power.

      • n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        10 months ago

        Kaboom - Well if they were conservative and cared about traditional values, they wouldnt have let in so many migrants.

        Yes Immigrants are the problem /s

    • Kaboom@reddthat.com
      322·
      10 months ago

      Well if they were conservative and cared about traditional values, they wouldnt have let in so many migrants.

      • LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world
        121·
        10 months ago

        What “traditional values” are you talking about?

        We’re a nation of migrants; you don’t get to rewrite history because it makes you mad.

        The first immigration law passed in this country was a process for naturalization; it doesn’t get more traditional than that.

            • Kaboom@reddthat.com
              213·
              10 months ago

              Oh you mean the guys who literally invaded? I don’t think you’re helping your case.

              • LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world
                13·
                10 months ago

                Oh, I see.

                You don’t care about the truth.

                It all makes sense now.

                So when you said the UK isn’t a nation of migrants you knew you were wrong?

                Some people actually aren’t afraid of history, to the despair of conservatives worldwide.

                Also, what a fun admission that Europeans invaded the Americas. I’m sure you’ll be logically consistent there.

                • Kaboom@reddthat.com
                  112·
                  10 months ago

                  Just to be clear on your logic, you think migrants are invaders, and that we should welcome them with open arms?

                  Well yeah, Europeans invaded America. Didn’t go well for the natives.

                  • LookBehindYouNowAndThen@lemmy.world
                    7·
                    10 months ago

                    No, my logic is that we have a self-selecting population of highly motivated and ambitious people who want to be Americans.

                    To turn them away is foolish if you care about the economic and cultural wealth of the nation.

                    And you still haven’t clarified what “traditional values” are opposed to immigrants; even the fucking Romans welcomed people into their citizenry.

          • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.works
            51·
            10 months ago

            Man i am this close to just blocking the reddthat instance. I dunno why but too many chuds and bad, bad fucking takes crawl out from under there