• Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz
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          As serving Russian interests, what kind of connection do they have to the Russian state if they so brazenly vote for the wishes of Putin?

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            That is a new definition of treason for me, but okay call it what you want.

            Is a cooperation on space travel also treason?

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              That’s a false equivalence, this isn’t exactly cooperation towards a mutually beneficial goal, this is just trying to reduce support for a country which by sheer coincidence is an enemy of Putin.

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        It follows rather directly. For it to be high treason to be against sending more military resources to Ukraine would mean that either the representatives are members of the Ukrainian government or, as was implied here, that Ukraine is a puppet state.

        It’s not high treason against the USA to be against the USA sending military resources to another country. You can only commit high treason against your own country.

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          You’re willfully dancing around the actual point OP is making. You can’t be a grown adult and think this concretely without doing so in bad faith.

          The point is that opposing this is directly showing support for Russia…

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            The point is that opposing this is directly showing support for Russia…

            Which guess what: isn’t high treason. If you’ll notice, I havent offered my opinion here or participated elsewhere in the thread.

            I was simply pointing out that using the term “high treason” here is rather silly and nonfactual.

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              So you aren’t making any argument at all, and are just saying “everyone look at my bold linguistic castle. It is very cromulent.”

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        You say that US citizens (the republican politicians) who do not support Ukraine should be trialed for treason. This implies that Ukraine is a part of the US, doesn’t it?

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        your name is pacifist but you support sending weapons of death and destruction into a conflict where they will be used to kill people? they’re sending fucking clusterbombs dude what is it going to take to convince you people this is not a good thing?

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          Hey, Ukrainian here. Try to convince me that it’s a bad thing. Russians shelling Ukrainian cities with cluster munitions is okay, but Ukraine fighting back is bad? Russia brought all the deaths and destruction, not Ukraine, or “the west”.

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              At least they have ~3% fail rate and will be used against military targets vs russian 30-40% fail rate and used in the cities